Vaughn Tolle said:
To answer the initial question, all in all, fairly good; Saturday evening's disappointment was tempered by the safe and early arrival of the younger daughter at the airport, in apparent good health and good spirits. Sunday was spent visiting with my mother and three siblings in McPherson, the younger in tow along with my wife. Good conversation, good food; some quality time. A stop at Dillon's at Central and Rock about 8:30 last night elicited the comment from the younger that while she understood that things change, it seemed to her that there should be some certainty in life, namely that she could walk into that store and be able to find what she wanted without searching; not the current case, to be sure.
lomghorn said:
I picked up this rant at DU. I thought it was very good, and thought some here might enjoy it. Long, but worth the read for those with some attention span left.
"While yesterday I focused on the fact that the Republican Party is reeling, today - thanks to the latest outburst from Glenn Beck - I'd like to remind everyone of something equally important: This is who they are. The face of Beck, Ann Coulter, George Allen and so many other right-wing bigots, misogynists and low-down assholes is the face of the Republican Party. The face and, to be sure, the heart and soul.
Take a good look, America, because the smiling faces you see on the right belie a cold, dark interior far more accurate than outward appearances. And remember what you see, because obscuring the truth about themselves is the only thing keeping the Republican Party from being marginalized to permanent minority status at the far fringes of society.
When Beck calls Hillary Clinton a "stereotypical bitch", he's speaking for the party.
When Coulter calls John Edwards a "faggot", she's speaking for the party.
When Allen calls a man of Indian descent "Macaca", he's speaking for the party.
When Bill Donohue says things like "The gay community has yet to apologize to straight people for all the damage that they have done," he's speaking for the party.
When Bill O'Reilly calls the victims of Hurricane Katrina "drug-addicted" and "thugs", he's speaking for the party.
When Bill Bennett says things like "you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down," he's speaking for the party.
When Pat Robertson calls for Hugo Chavez's assassination, he's speaking for the party.
When Brit Hume's first thoughts after the London terror attacks was "Hmmm, time to buy," he's speaking for the party.
And when John Gibson wishes those attacks on France, he's speaking for the party.
Get the picture?
Make no mistake, these are the comments of terrible, terrible people. But not just any people. Prominent conservatives. People held in high regard* and who have repeatedly been given a soapbox from which to spout their dangerous, hateful rhetoric. People given the tremendous opportunity to speak both to and for other people.
You and I don't have the same opportunity, nor do we have the same platform. Our words don't appear on cable news, on nationally syndicated radio or in national newspapers. Theirs do.
So the next time a mindless Republican asks a progressive to answer for the words of a seeming nobody, remember that the hate speech you're hearing from the right isn't coming from a corresponding seeming nobody. It's coming from people of prominence.
Not people of character, mind you, but people of prominence. And people whose warped sentiments speak for millions of their fellow travelers.
The truly sad thing about the Becks, Coulters and Allens of the world is that there's a little bit of each of them in every Republican.
Every self-styled conservative caught defending their statements or, at the very least, looking the other way while they spew their bile is forgiving them for poisoning the debate. For cheapening it. For lowering the bar. For appealing to the lowest-common denominator. For pandering to the Republican base's very worst tendencies and beliefs.
This is who they are: Self-styled moral scolds with a bit of an asshole problem.
It's not that they simply never practice what they preach. It's that their preaching is an overt effort to mask their inner depravity. For today's Republicans, the phrase "Don't judge a book by its cover" couldn't be truer. Only now, with the cover rapidly deteriorating, the book itself is there for everyone to see."
"While yesterday I focused on the fact that the Republican Party is reeling, today - thanks to the latest outburst from Glenn Beck - I'd like to remind everyone of something equally important: This is who they are. The face of Beck, Ann Coulter, George Allen and so many other right-wing bigots, misogynists and low-down assholes is the face of the Republican Party. The face and, to be sure, the heart and soul.
Take a good look, America, because the smiling faces you see on the right belie a cold, dark interior far more accurate than outward appearances. And remember what you see, because obscuring the truth about themselves is the only thing keeping the Republican Party from being marginalized to permanent minority status at the far fringes of society.
When Beck calls Hillary Clinton a "stereotypical bitch", he's speaking for the party.
When Coulter calls John Edwards a "faggot", she's speaking for the party.
When Allen calls a man of Indian descent "Macaca", he's speaking for the party.
When Bill Donohue says things like "The gay community has yet to apologize to straight people for all the damage that they have done," he's speaking for the party.
When Bill O'Reilly calls the victims of Hurricane Katrina "drug-addicted" and "thugs", he's speaking for the party.
When Bill Bennett says things like "you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down," he's speaking for the party.
When Pat Robertson calls for Hugo Chavez's assassination, he's speaking for the party.
When Brit Hume's first thoughts after the London terror attacks was "Hmmm, time to buy," he's speaking for the party.
And when John Gibson wishes those attacks on France, he's speaking for the party.
Get the picture?
Make no mistake, these are the comments of terrible, terrible people. But not just any people. Prominent conservatives. People held in high regard* and who have repeatedly been given a soapbox from which to spout their dangerous, hateful rhetoric. People given the tremendous opportunity to speak both to and for other people.
You and I don't have the same opportunity, nor do we have the same platform. Our words don't appear on cable news, on nationally syndicated radio or in national newspapers. Theirs do.
So the next time a mindless Republican asks a progressive to answer for the words of a seeming nobody, remember that the hate speech you're hearing from the right isn't coming from a corresponding seeming nobody. It's coming from people of prominence.
Not people of character, mind you, but people of prominence. And people whose warped sentiments speak for millions of their fellow travelers.
The truly sad thing about the Becks, Coulters and Allens of the world is that there's a little bit of each of them in every Republican.
Every self-styled conservative caught defending their statements or, at the very least, looking the other way while they spew their bile is forgiving them for poisoning the debate. For cheapening it. For lowering the bar. For appealing to the lowest-common denominator. For pandering to the Republican base's very worst tendencies and beliefs.
This is who they are: Self-styled moral scolds with a bit of an asshole problem.
It's not that they simply never practice what they preach. It's that their preaching is an overt effort to mask their inner depravity. For today's Republicans, the phrase "Don't judge a book by its cover" couldn't be truer. Only now, with the cover rapidly deteriorating, the book itself is there for everyone to see."
longhorn said:
I posted this as part of the last post on the last thread. I'm reposting it here for obvious reasons. I have no problem with people crossing this "picket line" heheheeh. I do have a problem with them hiding it under mutiple nics, and them thinking we are not as smart as they are, and we wont know who they are.
Get real. NO ONE is perfect in hiding their writing styles. Sooner or later, it appears.
"Good to have you back Captain. The boycott has gone well. However, it is disappointing to see our own posting over there under multiple nics. At least Ben posts under his own name. Whatever. An addiction is an addiction is an addiction, eh DD?"
I guess fleetie really misses us if he comes here to read and then posts our words over there, hehehehe. He misses us so much he NEEDS our words over there? And the too clever by half lib posters over there just prove him right.
Congratulations. It takes a LOT to prove fleetie right!
Get real. NO ONE is perfect in hiding their writing styles. Sooner or later, it appears.
"Good to have you back Captain. The boycott has gone well. However, it is disappointing to see our own posting over there under multiple nics. At least Ben posts under his own name. Whatever. An addiction is an addiction is an addiction, eh DD?"
I guess fleetie really misses us if he comes here to read and then posts our words over there, hehehehe. He misses us so much he NEEDS our words over there? And the too clever by half lib posters over there just prove him right.
Congratulations. It takes a LOT to prove fleetie right!
longhorn said:
...and in the vein of "a scandal a day" for bushco, here's a little link to a story about how the bushies are diverting money for small business contracts to Fortune 500 firms.
And a lot of PR firms. Can you say propaganda? Click the link and read the comments.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa...
And a lot of PR firms. Can you say propaganda? Click the link and read the comments.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa...
Vaughn Tolle said:
Wondering, longhorn, if the "scandal a day" is kinda, sorta like the practice of publicly held corporations throwing every piece of bad financial news into a specific quarter's financial reports; this gives it a run, but next quarter, all is "peachy keen" again... and the financial media just waves the white flag.
WSClark said:
Not a happy camper this morning, so please forgive if I am a little testy...........
After two weeks of waiting, the Wichita police told me this morning that they do not want to file charges on my ID theft situation - too much work. They suggest that I should file it as a civil case. That course, however, only means that I will get a judgment, but never receive any of the money.
I have requested a call from the Financial Crimes chief, so we'll see how this plays out.....
But anyway, my random thoughts.........
After reading this blog this am, I took a visit to WE to see what the fuss w/ Fleet Idiot was all about. Typical Fleetwood - nothing to say, just the moronic babbling of a right wing idiot. Not worth another thought.
Capn', did that moron RepubliKhan-JM ACTUALLY post over here? What did he offer? More of the same?
By the way, Capn', welcome back after your ten day cruise to the Bahamas. Now STFU about your trip!
Naw, I am not jealous. (triple wink!)
What do y'all think - will Bush veto the Iraq spending bill? If he does, knowing that there are not the votes to override, what would be the next step.
No spending bill - no funding?
"Who will cave in on Iraq funding?
Top Democrat questions whether Bush really will veto bill with exit date."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17787144/
Back again later.......
After two weeks of waiting, the Wichita police told me this morning that they do not want to file charges on my ID theft situation - too much work. They suggest that I should file it as a civil case. That course, however, only means that I will get a judgment, but never receive any of the money.
I have requested a call from the Financial Crimes chief, so we'll see how this plays out.....
But anyway, my random thoughts.........
After reading this blog this am, I took a visit to WE to see what the fuss w/ Fleet Idiot was all about. Typical Fleetwood - nothing to say, just the moronic babbling of a right wing idiot. Not worth another thought.
Capn', did that moron RepubliKhan-JM ACTUALLY post over here? What did he offer? More of the same?
By the way, Capn', welcome back after your ten day cruise to the Bahamas. Now STFU about your trip!
Naw, I am not jealous. (triple wink!)
What do y'all think - will Bush veto the Iraq spending bill? If he does, knowing that there are not the votes to override, what would be the next step.
No spending bill - no funding?
"Who will cave in on Iraq funding?
Top Democrat questions whether Bush really will veto bill with exit date."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17787144/
Back again later.......
TRACY said:
loMghorn? Was that you girlie?
And we already had obscene posts get pulled?
No way~~WAY?
We have arrived. Look at how important we are.
We are so important that people have to try to disrupt our world-shaking & hell raising, huh?
Capn went to the Bahamas? WHAT?
Capn~YOU SUCK. HA!
I hope you got a damned sunburn, you weenie.
I been so damned busy, I ain't even heard if LimpBalls came out with a statement that Mrs. Edwards was doing this all for the 'sympathy vote'?
If that bigoted piece o' poop hasn't yet, them surely mAnn Coulter has.
Okay, enough fun for me today.
Recess is over.
Back to the drawing board.
And we already had obscene posts get pulled?
No way~~WAY?
We have arrived. Look at how important we are.
We are so important that people have to try to disrupt our world-shaking & hell raising, huh?
Capn went to the Bahamas? WHAT?
Capn~YOU SUCK. HA!
I hope you got a damned sunburn, you weenie.
I been so damned busy, I ain't even heard if LimpBalls came out with a statement that Mrs. Edwards was doing this all for the 'sympathy vote'?
If that bigoted piece o' poop hasn't yet, them surely mAnn Coulter has.
Okay, enough fun for me today.
Recess is over.
Back to the drawing board.
Vaughn Tolle said:
WS, have you contacted the Secret Service? Seriously; the Secret Service is an arm of the Treasury Department.
Vaughn Tolle said:
TRACY, if this be true, what about Mr. Snow and his medical issue(s)? The "sympathy vote" runs both ways, no?
longhorn said:
Yeah Tracy, that was me. I just cant spell worth a damn. WS, that sucks.
I sure would like to know more about those posts that were pulled from here. They musta been pulled damn quick, or else were prevented before they ever appeared. Captain, can you enlighten us?
It's obvious the CONS have been reading and posting here too. Like I said. No one covers their tracks completely. Heheheheh. You can bet fleetie wont repost THAT!
I sure would like to know more about those posts that were pulled from here. They musta been pulled damn quick, or else were prevented before they ever appeared. Captain, can you enlighten us?
It's obvious the CONS have been reading and posting here too. Like I said. No one covers their tracks completely. Heheheheh. You can bet fleetie wont repost THAT!
WSClark said:
Just sitting here tryin' to keep the BP down at this moment, VT? I am hoping that it is just a two bit opinion of an overworked Detective and no official. The kicker is, I can get my money if charges are filed. When the charges are filed, the respective State and Federal will "nullify" the fake returns and allow my legal ones to be processed.
Give the high profile of ID theft in the media lately, you would think that they would have a little more interest.
I hope to hear from the super before long - then on to step two.
Thanks for your interest, VT, I will keep you all posted.
Give the high profile of ID theft in the media lately, you would think that they would have a little more interest.
I hope to hear from the super before long - then on to step two.
Thanks for your interest, VT, I will keep you all posted.
lindainks55 said:
You guys are NOT gonna tempt me into going over there to see what is going one! Quit it! Anyone who wants to post here is welcome; anyone who wants to post many places should just get to posting at those many places. And, if at any of those places you find something good, please bring it back to share. If it's some silliness, I like our silliness much better -- we're better equipped IMO. And, I must tell you life is way to serious to take seriously so I'm glad we have expert silliness going on here. And, I'm real glad for all those who bring info about the serious stuff too. I think it must be about a perfect balance.
Gster said:
Hmmm.. "expert silliness ", huh.
Another line on the old resume, that brings it up to 3 1/2.
This place is doing me some real good!
Next....
Another line on the old resume, that brings it up to 3 1/2.
This place is doing me some real good!
Next....
lindainks55 said:
Dear hosts,
Thank you again (I should start each day with a thank you!) for hosting us. I like your place and will try to be respectful.
Now, I have a question/request. Could you tell from all the kissin' up I was doing!? How difficult would it be to add a feature whereby we could go back and edit our own posts? I don't see the errors until after I've hit that "Add Comment" button. Once that is done the errors are all-too visible and I would like to fix them. But, on the other hand, I've already made enough errors that everyone is getting used to them so It's no big deal.
But IF I could go back, in the 1:13 post it would read, "life is way TOO serious..."
Thank you again (I should start each day with a thank you!) for hosting us. I like your place and will try to be respectful.
Now, I have a question/request. Could you tell from all the kissin' up I was doing!? How difficult would it be to add a feature whereby we could go back and edit our own posts? I don't see the errors until after I've hit that "Add Comment" button. Once that is done the errors are all-too visible and I would like to fix them. But, on the other hand, I've already made enough errors that everyone is getting used to them so It's no big deal.
But IF I could go back, in the 1:13 post it would read, "life is way TOO serious..."
WSClark said:
The coroner's report stated that Anna Nicole died of an accidental overdose.
No can the media STOP covering this and let it go?
Of all the brilliant and worthwhile women in the world - politicians, artists, poets, actresses, doctors, business women, lesbian activists/farmer/resturant owners - and all we hear about is some former stripper with tits the size of basketballs?
Who cares?
It is the Anna Nicole Smiths of the world that makes the election of a Hillary Rodham Clinton unlikely.
My second daughter just made the Dean's List for the sixth time - that's news - not Anna Nicole brewing up a deadly chemical cocktail.
No can the media STOP covering this and let it go?
Of all the brilliant and worthwhile women in the world - politicians, artists, poets, actresses, doctors, business women, lesbian activists/farmer/resturant owners - and all we hear about is some former stripper with tits the size of basketballs?
Who cares?
It is the Anna Nicole Smiths of the world that makes the election of a Hillary Rodham Clinton unlikely.
My second daughter just made the Dean's List for the sixth time - that's news - not Anna Nicole brewing up a deadly chemical cocktail.
longhorn said:
lesbian activists/farmer/resturant owners
hee hee hee HEE Clark! Thanks buddy. Right back atchya!
Gster, could that be part of another verse? heheheh
Yeah. You guys are funny. I like that. I like the serious stuff too. Linda is right that there needs to be a balance. And speaking of balance...
Where is CF? I need my smarts shored up by one of his posts! Besides, I had more pan asian commie food that I wanted to tempt him with. Now THAT, Linda dear, is a temptation! heheheheeh
hee hee hee HEE Clark! Thanks buddy. Right back atchya!
Gster, could that be part of another verse? heheheh
Yeah. You guys are funny. I like that. I like the serious stuff too. Linda is right that there needs to be a balance. And speaking of balance...
Where is CF? I need my smarts shored up by one of his posts! Besides, I had more pan asian commie food that I wanted to tempt him with. Now THAT, Linda dear, is a temptation! heheheheeh
longhorn said:
Linda, I'm pretty sure I'm the worst speller on the blog. Spell check has completely ruined me. I could type my posts in word, spell check, then post, but that is waaayyyy too much work. I forget what I was posting when I take that long. So I post, warts and all. You can too.
Remember, perfect is the enemy of good :)
/zen off/
Remember, perfect is the enemy of good :)
/zen off/
Vaughn Tolle said:
WS, my congratulations to your second daughter; six times, huh? I'm envious. Must take after her father, right?
You're right on the media coverage; more than enough, already!
You're right on the media coverage; more than enough, already!
WSClark said:
Well, VT, she does take after her father in some regards..... she is soon to be twenty-nine, it took me seven years to convince her to drop the "I'm gonna" and actually enroll in College.
I am a procrastinator - I keep mean to do something about it, but I just never get around to it.
I am a procrastinator - I keep mean to do something about it, but I just never get around to it.
Gster said:
LH "Gster, could that be part of another verse? heheheh"
You betchum', and you'll never see real art like that being used as elevator music!
You betchum', and you'll never see real art like that being used as elevator music!
WSClark said:
Mrs. Inks, read some of my posts.... Look at the one above....
"I keep mean to do something about it,"
S/B
"I keep meanING to do something about it,"
What is horrible it that I do that kind of stuff all the time......
.... and I was a Lit Major in college.
"I keep mean to do something about it,"
S/B
"I keep meanING to do something about it,"
What is horrible it that I do that kind of stuff all the time......
.... and I was a Lit Major in college.
Gster said:
My alter ego has been known to bang on the keyboard, which gets its revenge by creating brand new words, most which have no vowels. I get busted by not only the spelling police, but also by the grammar guys, too.
I still think my 10 worst enemies lie at the ends of my hands.
I still think my 10 worst enemies lie at the ends of my hands.
Julie said:
hey all,
would you stop and say a quick prayer or think REALLY positive thoughts.
Mountain Man (hubby) is getting ready to meet w/ Limited Case Mgr in custody case. This is a joint meeting with the LCM and both parties (sorry I still can't refer to her without cussing).
Thank you SOOOOO much.
would you stop and say a quick prayer or think REALLY positive thoughts.
Mountain Man (hubby) is getting ready to meet w/ Limited Case Mgr in custody case. This is a joint meeting with the LCM and both parties (sorry I still can't refer to her without cussing).
Thank you SOOOOO much.
WSClark said:
Here is the BEST argument AGAINST gay marriage - beware - very heavy sarcasm alert.
Because my EX-wife is the suspect in my ID theft case, it is not handled as a normal ID theft case, but as a DOMESTIC issue.
I was divorced from her in November, 1985.
Now I have to go down to the police station and file ANOTHER report.
Now, gay folks out there, do you really want this to happen to you?
When you advocate gay marriage, you have to also consider gay divorce.
Sarcasm Alert off.
(For my gay friends - I will continue to support your right to marry the partner of your choice, but dang, this is ridiculous!)
Because my EX-wife is the suspect in my ID theft case, it is not handled as a normal ID theft case, but as a DOMESTIC issue.
I was divorced from her in November, 1985.
Now I have to go down to the police station and file ANOTHER report.
Now, gay folks out there, do you really want this to happen to you?
When you advocate gay marriage, you have to also consider gay divorce.
Sarcasm Alert off.
(For my gay friends - I will continue to support your right to marry the partner of your choice, but dang, this is ridiculous!)
Gster said:
Julie- Good luck.
We'll be more than happy to the cussin' for you - just get us aimed in the right direction, we'll take it from there! I knew that talent would come in handy someday.
We'll be more than happy to the cussin' for you - just get us aimed in the right direction, we'll take it from there! I knew that talent would come in handy someday.
Danny said:
Julie,
You and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers.
All,
So this weekend while in Denver(expensive trip, *mumbles something about oil prices*, but I digress), after paying *mumbles some more* outrageous prices on gas to go see the in-laws for my daughter's 2nd birthday, I decided that I wanted to write up a small little application for tracking gas mileage and oil consumption of my vehicle. This way I don't have to just write it down, but can get averages and graphs of the data to potentially see any problems before they become serious.
I think I may eventually release it to the world, but not this week. Maybe next week, source and all. Except it is for my Windows Mobile PDA, so if there is interest for a Windows version I may write one up for it also(other OS's well I can do that to, but that will take more time).
Oh and regarding spell check, Firefox is pretty nice, it will let you know of spelling errors while you are typing. Generally does a good job(not perfect). Not sure if 1.5.x.x does it, but I know 2.x.x.x does spell checking fine.
You and your husband will be in my thoughts and prayers.
All,
So this weekend while in Denver(expensive trip, *mumbles something about oil prices*, but I digress), after paying *mumbles some more* outrageous prices on gas to go see the in-laws for my daughter's 2nd birthday, I decided that I wanted to write up a small little application for tracking gas mileage and oil consumption of my vehicle. This way I don't have to just write it down, but can get averages and graphs of the data to potentially see any problems before they become serious.
I think I may eventually release it to the world, but not this week. Maybe next week, source and all. Except it is for my Windows Mobile PDA, so if there is interest for a Windows version I may write one up for it also(other OS's well I can do that to, but that will take more time).
Oh and regarding spell check, Firefox is pretty nice, it will let you know of spelling errors while you are typing. Generally does a good job(not perfect). Not sure if 1.5.x.x does it, but I know 2.x.x.x does spell checking fine.
lindainks55 said:
I use Firefox; no idea in the world what issue/version/whatever it is. It doesn't check my spelling. But I've decided that a ranting lecture with perfect spelling, grammar, sentence structure, syntax and punctation isn't as effective. :-)
Gster, I think your resume sounds fascinating! You should have your choice of positions at top pay IMO. How many "expert sillys" do you know!? Could be in short supply and are always needed!
Good luck Julie! Don't know or need details just that you asked us to think good thoughts and it's a done deal.
Will, you too! It is a sad state of affairs when anyone can steal what should be yours. Makes no sense and there should be a very easy way to punish the offender. Why is this punishing YOU!?
LH, I'm cooking some fresh green beans with new potatoes. What spices should I use? Should they also be cooked in beer instead of water? Or some broth? Hope you see this question soon or I'm off to do it all wrong without you.
Gster, I think your resume sounds fascinating! You should have your choice of positions at top pay IMO. How many "expert sillys" do you know!? Could be in short supply and are always needed!
Good luck Julie! Don't know or need details just that you asked us to think good thoughts and it's a done deal.
Will, you too! It is a sad state of affairs when anyone can steal what should be yours. Makes no sense and there should be a very easy way to punish the offender. Why is this punishing YOU!?
LH, I'm cooking some fresh green beans with new potatoes. What spices should I use? Should they also be cooked in beer instead of water? Or some broth? Hope you see this question soon or I'm off to do it all wrong without you.
Vaughn Tolle said:
I've the Google toolbar installed within my Firefox 1.5xx, and have enabled the spell check function. So, to see if it works, I being the great speller and all, I will now "click" on it and see what happens: ah, it works!! So, Linda and others, Firefox has the function as an "after the fact" issue. I think there might be a way to "turn it on" before starting, but I haven't played with it that much. (BTW, I deliberately misspelled four words in the above, clicked on the check icon, and it identified all of them.)
Vaughn Tolle said:
OK, have experimented further; this function is, indeed, ex post facto; that is, with the Google toolbar installed, once one has entered the text, and before clicking on "Add Comment", one may do a spell check of the post. Hope this is helpful to someone. Otherwise, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot; just do it!
CapnAmerica said:
I love the DU post, LongHorn. So true.
Check out Mr. Con's latest reincarnation:
As a gifted student who attends Derby middle school,i believe they hit it right on the nail. NO child left behind is bull. i attended wichita independent from k-5 and there was no child left behind. they teach to the upper students and the others have to rise to the occasion. If not U FAIL
Posted by: meelosh | March 26, 2007 at 03:09 PM
I wonder how the Con community is going to take getting their legs pulled by he-who-cannot-help-himself.
Trouble is, they're so self-absorbed and just kinda slow on the uptake, it's hard to say if they'll even notice.
Pass the popcorn.
Check out Mr. Con's latest reincarnation:
As a gifted student who attends Derby middle school,i believe they hit it right on the nail. NO child left behind is bull. i attended wichita independent from k-5 and there was no child left behind. they teach to the upper students and the others have to rise to the occasion. If not U FAIL
Posted by: meelosh | March 26, 2007 at 03:09 PM
I wonder how the Con community is going to take getting their legs pulled by he-who-cannot-help-himself.
Trouble is, they're so self-absorbed and just kinda slow on the uptake, it's hard to say if they'll even notice.
Pass the popcorn.
WSClark said:
I have the same function on my toolbar, VT. The problem is that it helps those that spell poorly, but does not help freakin' idiots like me that leave out parts of words or leaves them out all together or just flat uses them in the wrong context.
I need a checker that is freakin' idiot proof.
I need a checker that is freakin' idiot proof.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Uh, Capn, there is a grain of truth in the pasted post concerning the school in question. BTW, NEMHS does a similar thing; the bar is set, and all are expected to meet it. Difference: extra tutoring, etc., available for those experiencing difficulty in English and Math.
Dave Shuck said:
Hey there Wichita crew... hate to butt in, but I wanted to let you guys know that Aaron and I rolled a newly developed feature into InstantSpot last night. Now you guys can send private messages to each other. If you look at the browser bar at the top, there is a new link "Send a Private Message!". When you click it you will see a form and you can send a message to anyone who has added you as a friend.
As always, we like feedback so if you have any thoughts on it, we are all ears.
Now... carry on! :)
As always, we like feedback so if you have any thoughts on it, we are all ears.
Now... carry on! :)
TRACY said:
Okay capn. Maybe you're a weenie, maybe not.
I admit it. I don't know, but...........
You come 'round here spoutin' dem dare dirty words,
like..........
bahamas,......
and,
vacation,.........
Sheesh, them's pie in the face words, there.
Have a nice evening.
I admit it. I don't know, but...........
You come 'round here spoutin' dem dare dirty words,
like..........
bahamas,......
and,
vacation,.........
Sheesh, them's pie in the face words, there.
Have a nice evening.
TRACY said:
Dave's out scaring us cavemen libs with lights, bells and whistles again.
Damn Linda, we just figured out how to do this much,
Huh?
Damn Linda, we just figured out how to do this much,
Huh?
Gster said:
I can't believe I rode my motorcycle today to work.
I'm not putting that decision making skill in any resumes.
Merle done let me down!
Soggily yours,
I'm not putting that decision making skill in any resumes.
Merle done let me down!
Soggily yours,
Dave Shuck said:
LOL Tracy!
Just thought it might be a nice way for you guys to send "off-thread" messages without having to share email.
Just thought it might be a nice way for you guys to send "off-thread" messages without having to share email.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Gster, Merrill said "late afternoon"; just a matter of where it's "late afternoon", since it's "five o'clock somewhere", right?
Vaughn Tolle said:
Looks like from cnn.com that the Pentagon is in full CYA mode over the Tilman matter.
Danny said:
Capn,
I am a fan of what is maybe the 'true' intent of NCLB. By true, making sure we find ways of moving forward(to keep the bright intellectually stimulated, and finding creative ways to help those not able to keep up, tutoring is a good idea). However, the implementation of NCLB: standardized tests, etc. leads me to believe that if we dumb down America enough we can lower the wages paid out, and hire more foreign workers all the while ensuring that those who have money can have more money.
I think the further problem of the current implementation of NCLB is the fact that there is not incentive to teach things outside of the standard, which further means challenging kids is made more difficult.
So while maybe the idea of the acronym NCLB is great, the implementation is piss poor and leaves much to be desired.
On the money issue though, I'm not against those who have worked their tail ends off and earned what they have made. I'm more against the perceived 'free hand outs' we provide through tax credits for those who already have more money than I'm likely to make through working my entire life. At least I can state I'll be happy with what I'm doing though.
WS,
Congrats to your daughter. Making the deans list is always fun and something to be proud of. My oldest sister made her deans list several times and is doing research in her chosen field of study(granted she is 'done' with school now, only because she has graduated but has to do those silly certifications each year). So just tell her, no matter the age, it will eventually pay off.
VT,
Must be a Firefox 2.0+ thing then, because I have no toolbars and it underlines in a red dashed line immediately where I have spelling errors. No after thought on it at all.
I am a fan of what is maybe the 'true' intent of NCLB. By true, making sure we find ways of moving forward(to keep the bright intellectually stimulated, and finding creative ways to help those not able to keep up, tutoring is a good idea). However, the implementation of NCLB: standardized tests, etc. leads me to believe that if we dumb down America enough we can lower the wages paid out, and hire more foreign workers all the while ensuring that those who have money can have more money.
I think the further problem of the current implementation of NCLB is the fact that there is not incentive to teach things outside of the standard, which further means challenging kids is made more difficult.
So while maybe the idea of the acronym NCLB is great, the implementation is piss poor and leaves much to be desired.
On the money issue though, I'm not against those who have worked their tail ends off and earned what they have made. I'm more against the perceived 'free hand outs' we provide through tax credits for those who already have more money than I'm likely to make through working my entire life. At least I can state I'll be happy with what I'm doing though.
WS,
Congrats to your daughter. Making the deans list is always fun and something to be proud of. My oldest sister made her deans list several times and is doing research in her chosen field of study(granted she is 'done' with school now, only because she has graduated but has to do those silly certifications each year). So just tell her, no matter the age, it will eventually pay off.
VT,
Must be a Firefox 2.0+ thing then, because I have no toolbars and it underlines in a red dashed line immediately where I have spelling errors. No after thought on it at all.
Gster said:
VT- You're right- this is the first time I've ever been caught by a 40% forecast.
I hope I don't shringk.
Back on the Google tool bar, when I use it here, it flushes my post, but everywhere else there is no problem.
I have this luck problem- I could walk into a room full of diamonds, and come out with a dog turd!
I hope I don't shringk.
Back on the Google tool bar, when I use it here, it flushes my post, but everywhere else there is no problem.
I have this luck problem- I could walk into a room full of diamonds, and come out with a dog turd!
Vaughn Tolle said:
s/b "Tillman".
Danny: I think it's a 2.0 thing; there appears to be a default editing setting but what it does is guess the word misspelled, and inserts (in green) its guess; not like what you describe. Oh, well, the lexicon and I are friends anyway; I often forget that the feature is there.
Danny: I think it's a 2.0 thing; there appears to be a default editing setting but what it does is guess the word misspelled, and inserts (in green) its guess; not like what you describe. Oh, well, the lexicon and I are friends anyway; I often forget that the feature is there.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny, NCLB's intent is great; it just is poorly executed; I think we both agree on that.
From what I gather from my following the college admissions process, the wide range of grading systems now employed by high schools is forcing more and more weight on the standardized test (ACT, SATI) scores due to inconsistencies among the various "grading" methods used, or no grades at all in some cases. The plethora of admissions essays available on the internet is causing concern as well, given that many institutions were giving the essays greater weight for a period of time.
It all boils down to some way to hold schools accountable; obviously, grades awarded students by teachers is not the best way. In addition to the various forms of grading utilized in the world, there seems to be agreement that some form of grade inflation has struck in the high schools.
The appeal of a standardized test is obvious; unfortunately, the allowance of each state to determine its particular form of assessment, and how to structure the categories of success (or lack thereof) does nothing to address the real issues, notwithstanding what the politicos say.
From what I gather from my following the college admissions process, the wide range of grading systems now employed by high schools is forcing more and more weight on the standardized test (ACT, SATI) scores due to inconsistencies among the various "grading" methods used, or no grades at all in some cases. The plethora of admissions essays available on the internet is causing concern as well, given that many institutions were giving the essays greater weight for a period of time.
It all boils down to some way to hold schools accountable; obviously, grades awarded students by teachers is not the best way. In addition to the various forms of grading utilized in the world, there seems to be agreement that some form of grade inflation has struck in the high schools.
The appeal of a standardized test is obvious; unfortunately, the allowance of each state to determine its particular form of assessment, and how to structure the categories of success (or lack thereof) does nothing to address the real issues, notwithstanding what the politicos say.
darwinsdisciple said:
VT,
You know about NEMHS? My kid goes there. He likes it. They try to get him to tutor kids who are having trouble with algebra, etc. But doing so would interfere with his "Warcraft" gaming - you know those Middle-Ages games where they armor up and try to kill each other. My only consolation on him spending so time with these types of games is that it will be good prepartion for him surviving real life under the Jenna Bush administration.
You know about NEMHS? My kid goes there. He likes it. They try to get him to tutor kids who are having trouble with algebra, etc. But doing so would interfere with his "Warcraft" gaming - you know those Middle-Ages games where they armor up and try to kill each other. My only consolation on him spending so time with these types of games is that it will be good prepartion for him surviving real life under the Jenna Bush administration.
WSClark said:
Regarding the Pat Tillman incident: Perhaps it is just me - and I am no conspiracy theorist - but I feel that the Tillman death was just a little too convenient for the Bush Administration......
Young, handsome, driven, professional football player gives up a multi-million dollar contract to join the Rangers after 9/11 and is killed in action?
And then, much later, it comes out that he was killed by "friendly fire?"
And then it is thought that there may have been some misconduct by his superiors?
It is my contention that Pat Tillman was set up to be in a situation where he could be killed so that the Bush Administration could capitalize on the story for PR purposes.
Remember Jessica Lynch? Do not underestimate the Rovian desire to spin the facts for political purposes.
Young, handsome, driven, professional football player gives up a multi-million dollar contract to join the Rangers after 9/11 and is killed in action?
And then, much later, it comes out that he was killed by "friendly fire?"
And then it is thought that there may have been some misconduct by his superiors?
It is my contention that Pat Tillman was set up to be in a situation where he could be killed so that the Bush Administration could capitalize on the story for PR purposes.
Remember Jessica Lynch? Do not underestimate the Rovian desire to spin the facts for political purposes.
WSClark said:
Addendum to above post - and conspiracy theorist confirmation - when it was announced that Tillman and his brother were joining the Rangers, I predicted that Pat Tillman would be killed in action.
I am damned sorry that I was right.
I am damned sorry that I was right.
Vaughn Tolle said:
dd, I guess you're one of the lucky ones that have escaped (to date) the many posts I've made concerning NEMHS. BTW, there's a Site Council meeting tomorrow night; 7:00 in the library. As a NEMHS Site Council member for (now completing) 13 years, please accept this as my invitation to come and join in, should you have time. IIRC, the major agenda item is going to be a review of the Law Magnet program, where it is, where the faculty would like to see it go, etc.
Is your son into the Digipen thing?
Is your son into the Digipen thing?
Predestined said:
The phone just woke me during a nap (or is that 'awakened me'? *shrug*), so I may not make a lot of sense, but I'm going to try anyway.
Several years ago when my daughters attended school in Clearwater, there were major changes made to the grading system. The first was that the grade D was dropped. A C stopped at 51% (I think it was) and anything below that was an F. To me that meant that you were either average or a failure.
But to cover this, they instituted a 'program' of which I don't remember the name. In essence, it gave a student who failed a test the chance to be retaught so to be able to retake and pass the failed test.
Sounds good, doesn't it? It turned out not to be so good though. The top students got lazy, knowing that if they failed a test once, they had a second chance. (There were 15 Salutatorians at graduation that year, which was probably 1/4 of the entire graduation class.) The other problem was that pretty much no one was retaught. The teachers didn't have time to reteach a subject, especially to those too lazy to study the first time, so no one really learned much, except how to procratinate well.
As far as I know, that program fell by the wayside, but the grading scale is still in use. I've always felt rather ambivalent about it, as I see good and bad in it.
The 'take the test twice' thing was all a part of some type of government approved program, IIRC, and was an opt-in kind of thing. Just one more reason why government should stay the hell out of education and let teachers teach.
I'll keep thinking on the name of the program...
Several years ago when my daughters attended school in Clearwater, there were major changes made to the grading system. The first was that the grade D was dropped. A C stopped at 51% (I think it was) and anything below that was an F. To me that meant that you were either average or a failure.
But to cover this, they instituted a 'program' of which I don't remember the name. In essence, it gave a student who failed a test the chance to be retaught so to be able to retake and pass the failed test.
Sounds good, doesn't it? It turned out not to be so good though. The top students got lazy, knowing that if they failed a test once, they had a second chance. (There were 15 Salutatorians at graduation that year, which was probably 1/4 of the entire graduation class.) The other problem was that pretty much no one was retaught. The teachers didn't have time to reteach a subject, especially to those too lazy to study the first time, so no one really learned much, except how to procratinate well.
As far as I know, that program fell by the wayside, but the grading scale is still in use. I've always felt rather ambivalent about it, as I see good and bad in it.
The 'take the test twice' thing was all a part of some type of government approved program, IIRC, and was an opt-in kind of thing. Just one more reason why government should stay the hell out of education and let teachers teach.
I'll keep thinking on the name of the program...
Predestined said:
Have y'all read the letter from Kevin Tillman, written on Pat's birthday in October last year? If you haven't, take a gander. Or even if you need a referesher course in just what this war (I&O--Invasion and Occupation) is all about.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_afte...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_afte...
darwinsdisciple said:
He wants to be part of the Digipen program. He has to start taking some pre-requisites - programming and so forth.
He is in the science magnet and doing pretty well, so far. I tell him that computers are nice and all, but biology will be THE science of the 21st century. I fear he may be starting to listen to me... something must be wrong.
He is in the science magnet and doing pretty well, so far. I tell him that computers are nice and all, but biology will be THE science of the 21st century. I fear he may be starting to listen to me... something must be wrong.
WSClark said:
An extremely good read regarding the Bush inability to change course in Iraq. From Consortiumnews.com
Fatal Flaws of Bush's 'Tough-Guy-ism'
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/032507.html
Fatal Flaws of Bush's 'Tough-Guy-ism'
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/032507.html
Vaughn Tolle said:
dd, such is life, no? You are right (to a point): the interdisciplinary programs centered around Biology are the place to be, IMHO; biophysics, bioinformatics, biomedical engineering, et al. Most are math and computer modeling intensive at this point. There's some very interesting work being done at RPI regarding the use of quantum physics in connection with organic molecules (don't ask for any explanation, I just repeat the words :-)) of which I'm aware.
Danny said:
DD and VT,
I'd be likely to agree with you that biology is certainly going to play an important role in this century. I think I'd tend more to think computing will also have important roles with in it. A good example to look at there is the Folding@Home project, which helps with studying protein folding(and misfolding).
All three of my sisters have studied or are studying biology to go into medicine and/or related research areas. My brother had studied chemistry and biology and is currently in medical school.
So I suppose a background in both computing and biology could be a major plus. Part of me wants to take a few biology courses. Just to further my knowledge about it if for no other reason.
I'd be likely to agree with you that biology is certainly going to play an important role in this century. I think I'd tend more to think computing will also have important roles with in it. A good example to look at there is the Folding@Home project, which helps with studying protein folding(and misfolding).
All three of my sisters have studied or are studying biology to go into medicine and/or related research areas. My brother had studied chemistry and biology and is currently in medical school.
So I suppose a background in both computing and biology could be a major plus. Part of me wants to take a few biology courses. Just to further my knowledge about it if for no other reason.
WSClark said:
Have these (insert nasty swear words) people no shame whatsoever?
"Washington Post Prints New Wilson/Plame Attack"
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/032207.html
Bob Novak should be sent to Baghdad immediately with a one-way ticket.
"Washington Post Prints New Wilson/Plame Attack"
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/032207.html
Bob Novak should be sent to Baghdad immediately with a one-way ticket.
longhorn said:
OK y'all. You HAVE to go see this cartoon. The title?
Party of Family Values
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa...
Party of Family Values
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa...
WSClark said:
Chris Matthews opened Hardball tonight by by saying that House Republicans are revolting.......
Finally, someone in the corporate media has said it out loud.
Thank you, Chris.
Finally, someone in the corporate media has said it out loud.
Thank you, Chris.
WSClark said:
That was one hell of a political cartoon, Grrl. Right to the heart of the matter. That clearly illustrates the key differences between (some) Repulicans and Democrats.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Danny said:
All,
Since I had mentioned it, and I am a huge proponent of this project, this is the site to download the Folding@home client:
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
It is pretty cool, basically when you aren't using your computer and it goes to screensaver, this client runs during that time solving protein problems. Basically looking for cures and solutions to diseases and cancer. <-- very short overview.
They have an FAQ there worth reading, and all of that is linked from the download page directly. If you are interested, I made a team the number is 61188, and when you first run it, all you do is have name and that team number and then we'd all be part of a team trying to help solve diseases and other problems without having to know a thing about what it's doing.
If you have any questions feel free to ask, but I think their website would best answer them.
Since I had mentioned it, and I am a huge proponent of this project, this is the site to download the Folding@home client:
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
It is pretty cool, basically when you aren't using your computer and it goes to screensaver, this client runs during that time solving protein problems. Basically looking for cures and solutions to diseases and cancer. <-- very short overview.
They have an FAQ there worth reading, and all of that is linked from the download page directly. If you are interested, I made a team the number is 61188, and when you first run it, all you do is have name and that team number and then we'd all be part of a team trying to help solve diseases and other problems without having to know a thing about what it's doing.
If you have any questions feel free to ask, but I think their website would best answer them.
WSClark said:
Joe "Dead Woman in My Office" Scarborough is REALLY pissing me off tonight. He is all over Katie Couric about her interview with John and Elizabeth Edwards, but he is totally giving Rush Limbaugh and the Reich Wingers a pass.
Yeah, maybe Couric did not come across as the most knowledgeable and reasonable interviewer, but she did not slam the Edwards like the Ditto-Heads have done.
I am not a Couric fan by any means. I think that there are many, many (Christine Amanpour) women that handle the news better at every level. In my mind, however, giving a pass to Limbaugh and slamming Couric is just Scarborough hypocrisy at it's most obvious.
... and that is my two cents worth.
Yeah, maybe Couric did not come across as the most knowledgeable and reasonable interviewer, but she did not slam the Edwards like the Ditto-Heads have done.
I am not a Couric fan by any means. I think that there are many, many (Christine Amanpour) women that handle the news better at every level. In my mind, however, giving a pass to Limbaugh and slamming Couric is just Scarborough hypocrisy at it's most obvious.
... and that is my two cents worth.
Gster said:
I can't believe AG AG is going to testify in Congress abut the latest flap, when his #2, who also serves as his counsel (IIRC), is not going to testify and will claim 5th amendment protection!
Is this an attempt to be granted immunity?
It would be interesting to know the White House's reaction to this development!
Snoopy sobbed!
Is this an attempt to be granted immunity?
It would be interesting to know the White House's reaction to this development!
Snoopy sobbed!
lindainks55 said:
Pretty sure his top aide taking the 5th means he will need to spend more time with his family. He sure doesn't want to end up being Cheneyed. WHEN will there be accountability!??
.morg said:
Fun Fact:
Baby boomers retiring. There are 77 million Americans born between 1946-1964. One-third have zero retirement savings. The oldest are 61. The only cash they have is equity in a house, so they must sell.
Baby boomers retiring. There are 77 million Americans born between 1946-1964. One-third have zero retirement savings. The oldest are 61. The only cash they have is equity in a house, so they must sell.
CF said:
lindainks55,
Accountability, schmaccountability. Taking the fall or falling on one's sword is only for DemocRATS, not for members of Karl Rove's Thousand Year Reich.
At present, I think George is going to try to tough it out with Gonzales. He knows too much to be turned out.
It's going to be great to see the aide to Gonzales plead the Fifth and end up in contempt of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. Can you imagine being expected to take the fall for a rat bastard weasel like Gonzales? That can't be good for one's self-esteem.
Gster, regarding Gonzales testifying, do you know something I don't? As of yet, I don't see that he's scheduled to testify.
Accountability, schmaccountability. Taking the fall or falling on one's sword is only for DemocRATS, not for members of Karl Rove's Thousand Year Reich.
At present, I think George is going to try to tough it out with Gonzales. He knows too much to be turned out.
It's going to be great to see the aide to Gonzales plead the Fifth and end up in contempt of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes. Can you imagine being expected to take the fall for a rat bastard weasel like Gonzales? That can't be good for one's self-esteem.
Gster, regarding Gonzales testifying, do you know something I don't? As of yet, I don't see that he's scheduled to testify.
Gster said:
CF- Unless I'm upside down, he's scheduled April 19th IIRC.
I think he's toast before that appearance, partially due to this new development regarding the use of the 5th amendment by his #2.
I think he's toast before that appearance, partially due to this new development regarding the use of the 5th amendment by his #2.
lindainks55 said:
Wanna buy my house? This is the year I turn SIXTY. I can remember, and it doesn't seem long ago, that reading an obit of someone 65 told me they died of old age. Arrgg! I have never felt old but THIS AGE sounds so old how can I not feel it!? Musings:
I am currently using a product that will even out my skin tones. I won't buy new makeup until I find out whether my face will be the color of age spots when it's finally evened out.
I'm taking a medicine for arthritis pain that just might kill me but I will die more comfortably. ??
When my sons became young teenagers I learned there are three sexes -- male, female and Mom. Now I learn there is a fourth -- old.
I'm not worried about becoming my Mom any longer. I AM MY MOM through and through. The parts I like the least are the biggest part of who I am today. I promised myself I would never____________, but I did.
Enough for this morning. Not because it's so depressing, but because (right now) I can’t remember anything else. lol
I am currently using a product that will even out my skin tones. I won't buy new makeup until I find out whether my face will be the color of age spots when it's finally evened out.
I'm taking a medicine for arthritis pain that just might kill me but I will die more comfortably. ??
When my sons became young teenagers I learned there are three sexes -- male, female and Mom. Now I learn there is a fourth -- old.
I'm not worried about becoming my Mom any longer. I AM MY MOM through and through. The parts I like the least are the biggest part of who I am today. I promised myself I would never____________, but I did.
Enough for this morning. Not because it's so depressing, but because (right now) I can’t remember anything else. lol
lindainks55 said:
I'm with Gster. I think Gonzales is scheduled to testify (UNDER OATH) the 17th or 19th of April. He has been caught in so many lies now I don't see how he can talk under oath. I'm sure Bush would like to keep him but "under oath" has implications that can't be avoided.
Isn't it ironic that something legal (like sex with a consenting adult, or firing someone who serves at your pelasure) had to be covered up with LIES and is the beginning of the end?
Isn't it ironic that something legal (like sex with a consenting adult, or firing someone who serves at your pelasure) had to be covered up with LIES and is the beginning of the end?
Vaughn Tolle said:
IIRC, AG AG is scheduled to testify on the 17th of April; there was a short "bit" of an interview with him shown on Countdown last night; the NBC reporter doing the interview asked, to me, some relevant questions, all centered around the involvement of the AG in the matter; his answers to the essentially same question were all over the block, IMHO.
I have arrived at the opinion that the man is truly incompetent to hold his office; he's a "babe in the woods" in dealing with the press, for example. I'm not questioning his competency as an attorney here; just his competency to hold the office of Attorney General, a distinct difference.
I have arrived at the opinion that the man is truly incompetent to hold his office; he's a "babe in the woods" in dealing with the press, for example. I'm not questioning his competency as an attorney here; just his competency to hold the office of Attorney General, a distinct difference.
lindainks55 said:
I was taking Celebrex but a new insurance company decided that was too expensive so now I take meloxicam, a generic for mobic. My doctor thought Celebrex was what I should take but the insurance company knows much more about my health needs than my doctor.
.morg said:
Linda,
I feel your pain I have rhuematiod, take chemo injections weekly for the last 15 years have had many wonderful side effects but at least I'm mobile most of the time. Sucks doesn't it. Good thing you weren't on Vioxx.
I feel your pain I have rhuematiod, take chemo injections weekly for the last 15 years have had many wonderful side effects but at least I'm mobile most of the time. Sucks doesn't it. Good thing you weren't on Vioxx.
lindainks55 said:
So sorry morg! It's a spot between a rock and a hard place. I have no right to complain because it is absolutely true that if I have no shoes I must remember there is someone with no feet.
Vaughn Tolle said:
I see from cnn.com and abcnews.go.com that Mr. Snow joins the "cancer survivor whose cancer has now spread" group. Good thoughts, etc., are needed by him and his family, too, along with the Edwardses and those anonymous to the public folks who are battling with this in their lives.
longhorn said:
Yeah Vaughn. You know "some people" might think he should leave his white house job to spend more time with his family.
Hypocrits all of them. I wonder if those same people will have a comment about Tony and his cancer?
Heheheh. Yeah. Right.
Hypocrits all of them. I wonder if those same people will have a comment about Tony and his cancer?
Heheheh. Yeah. Right.
lindainks55 said:
Julie,
IIRC = If I Remember Correctly
What we've been seeing in the news recently is opposite of this. No one seems to be remembering correctly.
IIRC = If I Remember Correctly
What we've been seeing in the news recently is opposite of this. No one seems to be remembering correctly.
lindainks55 said:
Good morning DD! Our posts seem to have been made about the same time, but Julie gets her choice of an answer. We're good, huh!?
Predestined said:
Julie, IIRC stands for If I Recall Correctly. Or at least that's what I've been told. :) If I'm wrong, blame my kids.
Linda, I hear ya on the aches and pains. When I got up this morning, I felt totally lousy. Even my daughter thought I was running a temp. Now I'm just achey (arthritis), but I'm sure most is caused by this wet weather we've been having for over a week now. I suspect it will have an affect on my carpel tunnel, which appeared about the same time the arthritis did some 19 years ago. It all gets worse when I'm stressed.
I tried some homeopathic/herbal stuff a few years ago when it was really bad, and it helped. Wish I could remember what it was I took. I avoid all pharmaceuticals as much as possible. The side effects can kill you, and I don't want to take 2 more meds to combat the bad stuff from the first med. Drug companies just love picking our pockets, only to make us even worse than we were.
End of rant.
Linda, I hear ya on the aches and pains. When I got up this morning, I felt totally lousy. Even my daughter thought I was running a temp. Now I'm just achey (arthritis), but I'm sure most is caused by this wet weather we've been having for over a week now. I suspect it will have an affect on my carpel tunnel, which appeared about the same time the arthritis did some 19 years ago. It all gets worse when I'm stressed.
I tried some homeopathic/herbal stuff a few years ago when it was really bad, and it helped. Wish I could remember what it was I took. I avoid all pharmaceuticals as much as possible. The side effects can kill you, and I don't want to take 2 more meds to combat the bad stuff from the first med. Drug companies just love picking our pockets, only to make us even worse than we were.
End of rant.
WSClark said:
Good morning!!!! Random thoughts......
I certainly have compassion for Stonewall Tony Snow, but I wonder how the right is going to respond in light of their response to Elizabeth Edwards.
As I posted last night, they were all over Katie Couric, but they gave Limbaugh a pass on his "Edwards is jump starting his campaign" comment.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
Tomorrow morning I am going to embark on a frightening and epic journey - I am going Downtown to both the Police Headquarters and the IRS office. I am planning to begin drinking heavily when and if I return.
It looks like the Bush Admin is circling the wagons and trying to decide which victim to toss out to the Natives. Who is going to be the Scooby Doo Libby for this scandal. To hear the Cons discuss it, this is no issue, but they fail to see the politicalization of Justice. I noticed that during Gonzoloes interview on NBC yesterday that he was apparently going back to the "performance" rationale for the firings of the Gonzo Eight.
Yesterday, Rosie O'Donnell referred to the Iranian - British crisis as "Gulf of Tolkin." Now, I am no fan of O'Donnell, but I have to wonder if there is a grain of truth in there somewhere......
"U.S. launches show of force in Persian Gulf
Aircraft carriers, warplanes feature in maneuvers off the coast of Iran."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17810017/
Could be? Might be? Oh, no, he didn't?
I certainly have compassion for Stonewall Tony Snow, but I wonder how the right is going to respond in light of their response to Elizabeth Edwards.
As I posted last night, they were all over Katie Couric, but they gave Limbaugh a pass on his "Edwards is jump starting his campaign" comment.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
Tomorrow morning I am going to embark on a frightening and epic journey - I am going Downtown to both the Police Headquarters and the IRS office. I am planning to begin drinking heavily when and if I return.
It looks like the Bush Admin is circling the wagons and trying to decide which victim to toss out to the Natives. Who is going to be the Scooby Doo Libby for this scandal. To hear the Cons discuss it, this is no issue, but they fail to see the politicalization of Justice. I noticed that during Gonzoloes interview on NBC yesterday that he was apparently going back to the "performance" rationale for the firings of the Gonzo Eight.
Yesterday, Rosie O'Donnell referred to the Iranian - British crisis as "Gulf of Tolkin." Now, I am no fan of O'Donnell, but I have to wonder if there is a grain of truth in there somewhere......
"U.S. launches show of force in Persian Gulf
Aircraft carriers, warplanes feature in maneuvers off the coast of Iran."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17810017/
Could be? Might be? Oh, no, he didn't?
lindainks55 said:
wsc, My only advise is to time the drinking correctly. Your plan for after seems the right timing. I'll be thinking good thoughts on your behalf!
Does it seem that if bushco thinks the ship may be in danger of sinking they want to go out with guns blazing? I wonder if they even realize the ship is taking on water? They seem to be expert at looking the other way.
Does it seem that if bushco thinks the ship may be in danger of sinking they want to go out with guns blazing? I wonder if they even realize the ship is taking on water? They seem to be expert at looking the other way.
Julie said:
Thanks for the info. I was feeling really stupid when I couldn't figure it out and it was so common.
THANKS!!!!
THANKS!!!!
darwinsdisciple said:
On the IIRC, I think Vaughn was the first person I've ever seen use the abreviation. I have seen it since used by others.
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