Open Thread - 04/10
WichitaOK, I will have the opportunity to work on the Wichita Voice layout today. Hopefully we can get the pages figured out so the blog aggregate (where all of the authors post) comes up first and not the page that says "Sorry, there are no blog entries".
For now, if you are more comfortable, you can get directly to the old site by clicking: http://dubya.instantspot.com
Cheers!
gweltha.wkcsc said:
I see that McCain is still stating that things are getting better in Iraq, and I don't think anyone would want that to be untrue, given the enormous amounts of blood, misery and dollars we have spent there.
It seems to me if that is true, Bushco would be falling all over themselves to publicize that information in an attempt to justify their actions there, I know I would. Unless I'm in the wrong place, I don't recall seeing that publicity.
The only conclusion I can some to is either the conditions "on the ground" are too dangerious to risk covering these improvements, or the "progress" is too minimal to warrant publicity. Their actions do not seem to justify the conclusion that things are getting that much better.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think that Truth was the first victim in this war.
It seems to me if that is true, Bushco would be falling all over themselves to publicize that information in an attempt to justify their actions there, I know I would. Unless I'm in the wrong place, I don't recall seeing that publicity.
The only conclusion I can some to is either the conditions "on the ground" are too dangerious to risk covering these improvements, or the "progress" is too minimal to warrant publicity. Their actions do not seem to justify the conclusion that things are getting that much better.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think that Truth was the first victim in this war.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Veering madly from the opening post topic....
I want all to know that I anticipated a continuation of the frigid conditions, and dressed accordingly; now, only the fingers are a bit chilled. The good people working on the renovation are doing their best to get things done and completed; of course, due to the vagaries of the Kansas weather, when completed, it will be air conditioning time!
Now, back to work.
I want all to know that I anticipated a continuation of the frigid conditions, and dressed accordingly; now, only the fingers are a bit chilled. The good people working on the renovation are doing their best to get things done and completed; of course, due to the vagaries of the Kansas weather, when completed, it will be air conditioning time!
Now, back to work.
rm6046 said:
McCain may have a point, all things considered. How the hell could they be getting any worse?
Changing the subject, has anyone paid any attention to the flap involving Don Imus and the women's basketball team from Rutgers? Perhaps, "eight tattooed nappy headed ho's" was and unfortunate choice of words, even in jest. But (a), "if it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck ....?", and (b) it is far less offensive than the seemingly daily racial slurs and utterances we are subjected to from Imus' two main detractors, "da Reverens Sharpton and Jackson". And that gutless MSNBC and CBS Radio are bowing to so-called "political correctness" is despicable. They will 1000's of white viewers and listeners for both blacks they gain from their cowardly actions. And they should.
Changing the subject, has anyone paid any attention to the flap involving Don Imus and the women's basketball team from Rutgers? Perhaps, "eight tattooed nappy headed ho's" was and unfortunate choice of words, even in jest. But (a), "if it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck ....?", and (b) it is far less offensive than the seemingly daily racial slurs and utterances we are subjected to from Imus' two main detractors, "da Reverens Sharpton and Jackson". And that gutless MSNBC and CBS Radio are bowing to so-called "political correctness" is despicable. They will 1000's of white viewers and listeners for both blacks they gain from their cowardly actions. And they should.
rm6046 said:
Whoops! Should have read "they will LOSE 1000'S...". Somebody could get really rich devising a program like Spell Check called "You left out a word, you moron" Check!
Nathan said:
Now if this had been Shaun Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Rielly, or Ann Coulter they would be marching in the streets with picth forks and fire burning them at the stake.
I think IMUS is getting off easy in comparison.
I think IMUS is getting off easy in comparison.
rm6046 said:
Nathan: If, in fact, it had been any of the four you mentioned, I'm sure you are right ... because it would not have been said in jest and in the context of a satirical presentation, like Imus in the Morning.
Did you see O'Reilly vs. Geraldo one night last week? Apparently this thrice prior convicted illegal alien (2 DUI's and 1 Public Intox) had an accident while drunk, killing two teenage girls in New Hampshire, I think. O'Reilly was arguing that it was not because he was a drunken driver that shouldn't have been behind the wheel of a motor vehicle ... that it was because he was an illegal alien. I could only sit there, mouth agape, trying to figure out just what the hell was I missing here, friend?
Imus' honest apology and appearing on Sharpton's radio show, after inviting Sharpton to be on his show and Sharpton's out-of-hand refusal, is more than enough. Sharpton's blather this morning kept going on and on about forgiveness by himself, Jackson, the Rutger's girls, and the black community. I recall something about "Forgiveness is mine, sayeth the Lord...". Have Sharpton, et al, elevated their phony self-importance another step? Guess I missed that, too.
Did you see O'Reilly vs. Geraldo one night last week? Apparently this thrice prior convicted illegal alien (2 DUI's and 1 Public Intox) had an accident while drunk, killing two teenage girls in New Hampshire, I think. O'Reilly was arguing that it was not because he was a drunken driver that shouldn't have been behind the wheel of a motor vehicle ... that it was because he was an illegal alien. I could only sit there, mouth agape, trying to figure out just what the hell was I missing here, friend?
Imus' honest apology and appearing on Sharpton's radio show, after inviting Sharpton to be on his show and Sharpton's out-of-hand refusal, is more than enough. Sharpton's blather this morning kept going on and on about forgiveness by himself, Jackson, the Rutger's girls, and the black community. I recall something about "Forgiveness is mine, sayeth the Lord...". Have Sharpton, et al, elevated their phony self-importance another step? Guess I missed that, too.
Danny said:
rm6046,
Sounds like grammar checking is what is needed. Which exists in some word document programs. I suspect that it doesn't exist in browsers is that lexical analysis may be more computationally intensive. Beyond that, not sure why something like that doesn't exist. Other than ease to implement.
Sounds like grammar checking is what is needed. Which exists in some word document programs. I suspect that it doesn't exist in browsers is that lexical analysis may be more computationally intensive. Beyond that, not sure why something like that doesn't exist. Other than ease to implement.
Nathan said:
Here we have the prefect example of how liberals are when it comes to racist comments.
When a Conservative says something and apologizes it doesn't matter because he obviously meant it.
When IMUS or someone else says something and apologizes he really never meant what he said, it was just in jest...
When a Conservative says something and apologizes it doesn't matter because he obviously meant it.
When IMUS or someone else says something and apologizes he really never meant what he said, it was just in jest...
Dave Shuck said:
Regarding rm6046's statement: "O'Reilly was arguing that it was not because he was a drunken driver that shouldn't have been behind the wheel of a motor vehicle ... that it was because he was an illegal alien."
I heard the exchange on an audio replay and if I am not mistaken the point was that he was trying to make was since the guy was here illegally and had already been in custody previously, he had no business even being in that situation in the first place if people had been doing their jobs all along. I think the general statement was that if we were not failing when it comes to protecting our borders, he may have in fact been drunk behind the wheel somewhere, but it would not have been on our roads!
I heard the exchange on an audio replay and if I am not mistaken the point was that he was trying to make was since the guy was here illegally and had already been in custody previously, he had no business even being in that situation in the first place if people had been doing their jobs all along. I think the general statement was that if we were not failing when it comes to protecting our borders, he may have in fact been drunk behind the wheel somewhere, but it would not have been on our roads!
WSClark said:
RM, welcome back - you've been gone awhile - we've missed your POV. I hope all has been well with you and yours.....
Regarding Imus - I cannot imagine what would prompt anyone to refer to a Women's college B'Ball as nappy headed ho's and jigaboo's. The later label was applied by Imus' producer.
Today, we whine about the lack of values of young people - rappers, spoiled athletes, druggies, etc, yet these young women dedicated themselves as a team and came within a game of winning the National Championship.
Imus and company should have been applauding their tremendous accomplishment instead of insulting them.
While I am all about equal rights for everyone, Sharpton and Jackson, in my opinion, do more to harm to their cause then any good that they might do. Race relations are difficult. We live in a polarized society. Unfortunately, Jackson and Sharpton seem to be more about themselves than they are about the issues.
What to do about Imus? He's an idiot. I cannot imagine that he really thought that right thinking people would think that calling a wonderful group of young ladies "nappy headed ho's" would be funny.
Fire him and let him join Howard Stern on Satellite Radio. They share the same lack of class.
Again, welcome back, my friend.
Regarding Imus - I cannot imagine what would prompt anyone to refer to a Women's college B'Ball as nappy headed ho's and jigaboo's. The later label was applied by Imus' producer.
Today, we whine about the lack of values of young people - rappers, spoiled athletes, druggies, etc, yet these young women dedicated themselves as a team and came within a game of winning the National Championship.
Imus and company should have been applauding their tremendous accomplishment instead of insulting them.
While I am all about equal rights for everyone, Sharpton and Jackson, in my opinion, do more to harm to their cause then any good that they might do. Race relations are difficult. We live in a polarized society. Unfortunately, Jackson and Sharpton seem to be more about themselves than they are about the issues.
What to do about Imus? He's an idiot. I cannot imagine that he really thought that right thinking people would think that calling a wonderful group of young ladies "nappy headed ho's" would be funny.
Fire him and let him join Howard Stern on Satellite Radio. They share the same lack of class.
Again, welcome back, my friend.
lindainks55 said:
I'm glad to see you back too, my conservative friend rm. You always add to the discussion. Many times I don't agree but you are always able to disagree in such an agreeable manner. ;-)
Predestined said:
I need some techie help.
Outlook Express is my regular email program, but I've added a new email account and am thinking I'd like to run it on Outlook. Will this work?
(Please, no comments about Lotus or Eudora or anything else being to superior. Change is not easy for me. >grin<)
Outlook Express is my regular email program, but I've added a new email account and am thinking I'd like to run it on Outlook. Will this work?
(Please, no comments about Lotus or Eudora or anything else being to superior. Change is not easy for me. >grin<)
Gster said:
Pre- Just set Outlook as your default e-mail program.
If I recall correctly, that's all it takes.
G
If I recall correctly, that's all it takes.
G
Predestined said:
Thanks, Gster. That's not what I want to do, so I may simply have to add the new account to OE along with my regular account. At least that much I know I can do. Now, to remember to check the new one... How many days does it take to make a habit? 21? LOL
Vaughn Tolle said:
Gster, I think you're right; of course, I'm not running any of the MS products, sitting here with my Linux box, using Firefox browser, etc. happily without paying the fee so MS gets a royalty.....
lindainks55 said:
I know nothing technical. I shouldn't respond at all but the first post to this thread I forgot to uncheck and since then I have clicked on two messages in my email asking to be unsubscribed (or whatever) and that didn't work so I'll try this.
Just ignore me folks.
Just ignore me folks.
Danny said:
Pre,
If you know how to add an account to OE, then I think you could do that, and then in Outlook just import those settings. Unfortunately I don't recall off the top of my head how to do that, mostly because I use Linux or Mac OS X. Depending on what I'm doing at the time.
If you know how to add an account to OE, then I think you could do that, and then in Outlook just import those settings. Unfortunately I don't recall off the top of my head how to do that, mostly because I use Linux or Mac OS X. Depending on what I'm doing at the time.
rm6046 said:
Nathan: I don't really understand what you're driving at -- my fault, certainly not yours. My point was that the aforementioned conservative examples you pointed out hold themselves out to be serious political analysts. I don't think Imus holds himself out to be anything but what he is ... satirical, and certainly not to be taken at all seriously about anything. And, anyone who knows me (from here, elsewhere or in the real world) can assure you I am not a liberal, by anyone's stretch of the imagination.
Dave: Yep, they both ended up ranting and raving like idiots! And, I recognize that IF we had been doing the job at the borders, perhaps the man in question would not have been on that New Hampshire highway at that moment in time. But, having said and accepted that, if the man had been appropriately dealt with during the legal system on, at least, three other separate occasions, perhaps he would not have been there either. The tragedies compound in this story this story and are heartbreaking. But, in the immortal words of Don Merideth, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, it would be Christmas everyday". Sometimes, s**t happens!!! As a fully qualified victim of a DUI (drug) semi driver, I get to make that statement without hesitation.
WSC: Thanks. I've missed ya'll, too. I've been out of town, busy, playing "hurry up and wait" -- you know the drill. :) I totally agree that Sharpton and Jackson are quite adept at playing Russian Roulette with other peoples' heads. I don't think Imus should be fired ... actually, he doesn't even like being televised, but it is a significant tool for raising money for the ranch for kids with cancer and their families. The girls from Rutgers should accept his apologies, acknowledge his good works, and show themselves to be the classy ladies I'm sure that they are. As I'm sure you know, you don't just stroll into Rutgers, announce you're 6'7, black, and can toss around a basketball in "da' hood", and have everyone bowing at your feet.
This is neither important nor relevant to the issue at hand, but I've known Don, Kinky, and that whole "old Texas crowd" personally for almost 40 years, and Don has been a lot of things -- alcoholic, drug addict, obnoxious, grandiose, just to name a few -- but one thing he is not, nor ever has been, is a racist. My friend, he's no Howard Stern. Once more, thanks for the welcome back. Actually, I've been keeping track of some of what's been going on while I was gone through Vaughn, but between April 17th looming like Medusa on the horizon, and his laboring in an igloo, I'm glad I'm back, at least, for a few days. :)
Dave: Yep, they both ended up ranting and raving like idiots! And, I recognize that IF we had been doing the job at the borders, perhaps the man in question would not have been on that New Hampshire highway at that moment in time. But, having said and accepted that, if the man had been appropriately dealt with during the legal system on, at least, three other separate occasions, perhaps he would not have been there either. The tragedies compound in this story this story and are heartbreaking. But, in the immortal words of Don Merideth, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, it would be Christmas everyday". Sometimes, s**t happens!!! As a fully qualified victim of a DUI (drug) semi driver, I get to make that statement without hesitation.
WSC: Thanks. I've missed ya'll, too. I've been out of town, busy, playing "hurry up and wait" -- you know the drill. :) I totally agree that Sharpton and Jackson are quite adept at playing Russian Roulette with other peoples' heads. I don't think Imus should be fired ... actually, he doesn't even like being televised, but it is a significant tool for raising money for the ranch for kids with cancer and their families. The girls from Rutgers should accept his apologies, acknowledge his good works, and show themselves to be the classy ladies I'm sure that they are. As I'm sure you know, you don't just stroll into Rutgers, announce you're 6'7, black, and can toss around a basketball in "da' hood", and have everyone bowing at your feet.
This is neither important nor relevant to the issue at hand, but I've known Don, Kinky, and that whole "old Texas crowd" personally for almost 40 years, and Don has been a lot of things -- alcoholic, drug addict, obnoxious, grandiose, just to name a few -- but one thing he is not, nor ever has been, is a racist. My friend, he's no Howard Stern. Once more, thanks for the welcome back. Actually, I've been keeping track of some of what's been going on while I was gone through Vaughn, but between April 17th looming like Medusa on the horizon, and his laboring in an igloo, I'm glad I'm back, at least, for a few days. :)
rm6046 said:
Thank you too, Linda. God, If we all agreed on everything all the time, we'd end up like the WEBlog. Having two cats, I can get all the "stoking" I need without having to put up with GS, Repub ( or whatever AKA he's operating under today), Nutz, Fleet, Cap'n or the rest of them, whose sole goal in life seems to be to make each other feel warm and fuzzy! For Christ's sake, either get a cat or get laid ... I'm sure either would improve their lives! :)
Predestined said:
Good to see you again, RM! Is April 17th Panic Day for those who forgot about the IRS?
Everyone, thanks for all the help. I'm an old fogey who can't stand change. You should have seen me fight a switch to Word from Works ten years ago. Of course Word is far superior, but I fought it tooth and nail.
MS (in spite of Bill Gates) has served me well. I do have Firefox and used it for a short time, but it gave me fits and makes some webpages look just plain wrong. Maybe I just need to get the hang of it.
Anyway, I was able to set up a new account on Outlook and even sent an email from my main account on OE to the new one. (Yes, Danny, I do know how to set up accounts. Amazing, isn't it? LOL In fact, I have helped my kids set up theirs. What's a mother for, if not that? >grin<)
I'm off to work now and will check back when time allows. Have a great rest-of-the-day!
Everyone, thanks for all the help. I'm an old fogey who can't stand change. You should have seen me fight a switch to Word from Works ten years ago. Of course Word is far superior, but I fought it tooth and nail.
MS (in spite of Bill Gates) has served me well. I do have Firefox and used it for a short time, but it gave me fits and makes some webpages look just plain wrong. Maybe I just need to get the hang of it.
Anyway, I was able to set up a new account on Outlook and even sent an email from my main account on OE to the new one. (Yes, Danny, I do know how to set up accounts. Amazing, isn't it? LOL In fact, I have helped my kids set up theirs. What's a mother for, if not that? >grin<)
I'm off to work now and will check back when time allows. Have a great rest-of-the-day!
WSClark52 said:
RM, thanks for your kind words........
Just let me ask this of Imus - as Leno said to Grant - what the Hell were you thinking?
Really, I know the man does good work with some worthy causes, and for that, I will applaud him, but what the Hell? Nappy headed ho's? Jigaboos?
Like Jay said, what the Hell were you thinking?
Just let me ask this of Imus - as Leno said to Grant - what the Hell were you thinking?
Really, I know the man does good work with some worthy causes, and for that, I will applaud him, but what the Hell? Nappy headed ho's? Jigaboos?
Like Jay said, what the Hell were you thinking?
WSClark52 said:
This is an excellent column by Jemele Hill from ESPN.
Ms. Hill is a black woman and has an excellent perspective on the Imus incident. You may not agree with her, but she makes some very, very valid points.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hi...
Ms. Hill is a black woman and has an excellent perspective on the Imus incident. You may not agree with her, but she makes some very, very valid points.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hi...
Nathan said:
RM,
No problem. My point is that it shouldn't matter whether or not you are in satire or serious political commentation.
A racist remark is a racist remark.
Lets look at Tom Delay. He is not a Racist. Nothing he has done in his life has pointed to some underlying racist attitude.
But when he said what he did about Strom Thurmond being President he was attacked as saying the most outrageous racist thing.
It didn't matter his intent, it didn't matter that he apologized. He was burnt at the stake by the left.
So, my point is that here you have IMUS, regardless of why he said it, he said it and people are making excuses for it.
If it had been anyone else on the Conservative side they would have been burnt at the stake by now.
No problem. My point is that it shouldn't matter whether or not you are in satire or serious political commentation.
A racist remark is a racist remark.
Lets look at Tom Delay. He is not a Racist. Nothing he has done in his life has pointed to some underlying racist attitude.
But when he said what he did about Strom Thurmond being President he was attacked as saying the most outrageous racist thing.
It didn't matter his intent, it didn't matter that he apologized. He was burnt at the stake by the left.
So, my point is that here you have IMUS, regardless of why he said it, he said it and people are making excuses for it.
If it had been anyone else on the Conservative side they would have been burnt at the stake by now.
rm6046 said:
Thanks, Pre, yes -- because of some local holiday in Washington, D.C. that is the 16th, it was, as I grasp it, originally set up as the 16th for everybody except D.C., and then they were good to the 17th -- anyway, while it probably cost a $1 or $2 million to change all of the paperwork, it was decided to make everybody the 17th. What the hell, it's just (our) money, right? :)
WSC, I'll can ask is, yes, exactly, "What the hell was Don thinking?" My only answer is, more times than I care to recall in 6+ decades, "How many times, in laughter, caught up in the moment, with my mind on something else primarily, etc., etc., etc., and a million other excuses, have I said something WITHOUT thinking?" I recall something else from many years ago..."Judge not, lest ye be judged...". From time to time, quite occasionally, I have had those moments that were positive. Those I refer to as "epiphanies". The rest of them (at least 99%) I can only refer to as, "What the HELL was I thinking?" Or as my younger daughter would say, "Well, duh....?????" Damned good analysis, buddy!
WSC, I'll can ask is, yes, exactly, "What the hell was Don thinking?" My only answer is, more times than I care to recall in 6+ decades, "How many times, in laughter, caught up in the moment, with my mind on something else primarily, etc., etc., etc., and a million other excuses, have I said something WITHOUT thinking?" I recall something else from many years ago..."Judge not, lest ye be judged...". From time to time, quite occasionally, I have had those moments that were positive. Those I refer to as "epiphanies". The rest of them (at least 99%) I can only refer to as, "What the HELL was I thinking?" Or as my younger daughter would say, "Well, duh....?????" Damned good analysis, buddy!
WSClark said:
Trent Lott (R - Mississippi)said that we would have been better off if Strom Thurmond had been elected in 1948 to the Presidency on his segregationist platform.
Of course, segregation is not in the least, tiny bit, racist.
Of course, segregation is not in the least, tiny bit, racist.
Nathan said:
Oh yeah, Trent Lott.
I got them confused...
By the way, you are totally mischaracterizing what he said.
He was at an event in honor of Strom and he never said anything about the segregationist platform. He merely said the comment about us being better if he were President.
See?
This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. It was the left that threw that about his platform in there and poor old Trent Lott never meant that.
I got them confused...
By the way, you are totally mischaracterizing what he said.
He was at an event in honor of Strom and he never said anything about the segregationist platform. He merely said the comment about us being better if he were President.
See?
This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. It was the left that threw that about his platform in there and poor old Trent Lott never meant that.
WSClark said:
We would have been better off if Strom Thurmond had won in 1948.
Not too hard to miss the point.
Thurmond's entire Dixiecrat position was based on Segregation. That is why he left the Democratic Party. The ENTIRE reason that he ran on an independent ticket was because the Democratic Party did NOT support segregation.
To say that "we would have been better off" is to support the very premise of the Thurmond campaign - segregation.
Not too hard to miss the point.
Thurmond's entire Dixiecrat position was based on Segregation. That is why he left the Democratic Party. The ENTIRE reason that he ran on an independent ticket was because the Democratic Party did NOT support segregation.
To say that "we would have been better off" is to support the very premise of the Thurmond campaign - segregation.
Nathan said:
WS Clark,
But that is not what he meant. Which was my point. That you are going to burn him at the stake but not IMUS because IMUS didn't really mean that those firls were nappy headed ho's...
He was just joking.
Ha Ha, isn't it funny?
Next, I will go to 13th and Grove with a sign that says something funny about Niggers.
I am sure they will all laugh with me :)
But that is not what he meant. Which was my point. That you are going to burn him at the stake but not IMUS because IMUS didn't really mean that those firls were nappy headed ho's...
He was just joking.
Ha Ha, isn't it funny?
Next, I will go to 13th and Grove with a sign that says something funny about Niggers.
I am sure they will all laugh with me :)
WSClark52 said:
What if Don Imus had called Condaleeza Rice a nappy headed ho?
And how do you know what Lott meant? There were only two Senators that voted against the resolution condemning lynching - Cochran and Lott of Mississippi.
What does that say?
.... and don't even think that I would give Imus a pass.
And how do you know what Lott meant? There were only two Senators that voted against the resolution condemning lynching - Cochran and Lott of Mississippi.
What does that say?
.... and don't even think that I would give Imus a pass.
Predestined said:
Racist comments are wrong. Period. It shouldn't matter from which "side", they're still wrong.
rm6046 said:
Nathan: I still can't buy that. Leaving my personal feelings and knowledge of Tom Delay completely out of this discussion (we don't even want to go there), if I hold myself out to be an expert on, let's say alternative fuels, which I'm not, and my principal source of income is fossil-related fuels, which it is -- would anyone, except perhaps The Daily Show or Steven Colbert on the Comedy Channel -- invite me on their show to discuss alternative fuels and the elimination of carbon-producing fuels -- for any reason other than the satire? Would anyone watching that show, for anything except a damned good laugh, even bother to watch? Do I watch Don in the morning, if I wake up that early? You bet I do. I laugh my ass off sometimes, just as I have many times on the phone, over a bottle of Stoli, face to face, etc.? Hell, yes! Do I take virtually anything he says seriously? Hell, no!
It was an unfortunate remark, perhaps racist, sexist, you name it! I agree. If the tables were reversed, would the "conservative media" be all over his ass? Hell, yes. But, isn't the "liberal media" all over his ass right now. The same "liberal media" who dances around the "nappy headed 'ho" who tried to bring down Duke University for money?
If you are who I think you are, there are two things I want to tell you. First, and most importantly, welcome home, son. Secondly, weren't you fighting for a level playing field, among other things? Your comments and insights are well informed and welcomed by me.
It was an unfortunate remark, perhaps racist, sexist, you name it! I agree. If the tables were reversed, would the "conservative media" be all over his ass? Hell, yes. But, isn't the "liberal media" all over his ass right now. The same "liberal media" who dances around the "nappy headed 'ho" who tried to bring down Duke University for money?
If you are who I think you are, there are two things I want to tell you. First, and most importantly, welcome home, son. Secondly, weren't you fighting for a level playing field, among other things? Your comments and insights are well informed and welcomed by me.
Nathan said:
Come on WS Clark, give me a break.
"A poor choice of words conveyed to some the impression that I embraced the discarded policies of the past," Lott said. "Nothing could be further from the truth, and I apologize to anyone who was offended by my statement."
"My comments were not an endorsement of his positions of over 50 years ago, but of the man and his life."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/lot...
"This was a mistake of the head or of the mouth, not of the heart,"
"Lott said Wednesday night that he hoped he could be judged in the full context of his career, which he said has included support of historically black colleges and universities."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/12/lot...
"A poor choice of words conveyed to some the impression that I embraced the discarded policies of the past," Lott said. "Nothing could be further from the truth, and I apologize to anyone who was offended by my statement."
"My comments were not an endorsement of his positions of over 50 years ago, but of the man and his life."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/lot...
"This was a mistake of the head or of the mouth, not of the heart,"
"Lott said Wednesday night that he hoped he could be judged in the full context of his career, which he said has included support of historically black colleges and universities."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/12/lot...
Nathan said:
Personally,
I think a persons actions speak louder than thier words and that if their words are consistent that is what you should look at.
What we have today is the PC police. It doesn't matter that someone lives their life without being a racist that they are not racist or that they have never had a history of saying racist things.
When they mess up one time they are burnt at the stake.
I think it is a sham that Treny Lott went through what he did over that comment. The man was far from attending KKK meetings, yet he was treated as if he had just tied up a black girl to his truck and drug her down the dirt road and hung her over one stupid comment.
I don't care if you are liberal or conservative or moderate. Simply saying something dumb once or twice in your life doesn't make you anything other than someone who said something dumb once or twice in your life.
Fine the guy, censure him for a week, suspend him, or whatever little slap on the wrist you think is best and then move on.
When IMUS starts burning crosses on peoples lawns and wearing white pointy hats then we can start getting all upset.
I think a persons actions speak louder than thier words and that if their words are consistent that is what you should look at.
What we have today is the PC police. It doesn't matter that someone lives their life without being a racist that they are not racist or that they have never had a history of saying racist things.
When they mess up one time they are burnt at the stake.
I think it is a sham that Treny Lott went through what he did over that comment. The man was far from attending KKK meetings, yet he was treated as if he had just tied up a black girl to his truck and drug her down the dirt road and hung her over one stupid comment.
I don't care if you are liberal or conservative or moderate. Simply saying something dumb once or twice in your life doesn't make you anything other than someone who said something dumb once or twice in your life.
Fine the guy, censure him for a week, suspend him, or whatever little slap on the wrist you think is best and then move on.
When IMUS starts burning crosses on peoples lawns and wearing white pointy hats then we can start getting all upset.
tracyaphillips said:
The whole Imus scene is just bringing to light the very reason that I have attempted to change how I comment onblog.
If there is a terrible, mean, and nasty scene between me and another blogger....
I'm half the problem.
Ya' just can't fight hate with hate.
It's like throwin' water on a grease fire!
If there is a terrible, mean, and nasty scene between me and another blogger....
I'm half the problem.
Ya' just can't fight hate with hate.
It's like throwin' water on a grease fire!
rm6046 said:
Trace: What am I missing here? I haven't seen any "terrible, nasty scenes" this afternoon -- and what's the point in bringing up a non-controversial issue. Christ, if we wanted that, we could just go listen to GS tell us all how to live, smile gratefully, and wish the b**ch would go get laid ... or get a cat?
WSClark said:
The only plank in Strom Thurmond's 1948 presidential campaign was segregation.
That was it.
If you want to "celebrate" his political career - go right ahead - just deal with the consequences.
Trent Lott did not lose his primary job - his own party, including Bush, forced him to step down from his position as (then) Majority Leader.
And, just out of curiosity, why did Lott vote against the Senate condemnation of lynching?
And, what would the CONSERVATIVES said if Don Imus had called Condi Rice a nappy headed ho?
Let's not play games - this is a left and right thing for some people - not a matter of fairness.
That was it.
If you want to "celebrate" his political career - go right ahead - just deal with the consequences.
Trent Lott did not lose his primary job - his own party, including Bush, forced him to step down from his position as (then) Majority Leader.
And, just out of curiosity, why did Lott vote against the Senate condemnation of lynching?
And, what would the CONSERVATIVES said if Don Imus had called Condi Rice a nappy headed ho?
Let's not play games - this is a left and right thing for some people - not a matter of fairness.
Predestined said:
One more technical question, although this one is about InstantSpot login.
For those of you who didn't create a blog of your own upon signing up to post here, did you just fill in the first 3 blanks (user name, password, & email) and leave the rest blank?
I know, I know. I'm a real pain. Just humor me a little longer.
For those of you who didn't create a blog of your own upon signing up to post here, did you just fill in the first 3 blanks (user name, password, & email) and leave the rest blank?
I know, I know. I'm a real pain. Just humor me a little longer.
dawinsdisciple said:
Linda,
Great minds think alike. I have been wondering about him all day. I will write him an email tongiht. Been busy out purchasing a car today. Settled on the final decision based on good advice here.
Getting close to finishing that book I mentioned. I purchased it with a gift card that I got for my birthday, so the postage is not a big deal. Give to someone else when you're done. That will be your only obligation to me.
Different Subject: Been practicing the unplugged version of Layla - that is one beautiful song.
Great minds think alike. I have been wondering about him all day. I will write him an email tongiht. Been busy out purchasing a car today. Settled on the final decision based on good advice here.
Getting close to finishing that book I mentioned. I purchased it with a gift card that I got for my birthday, so the postage is not a big deal. Give to someone else when you're done. That will be your only obligation to me.
Different Subject: Been practicing the unplugged version of Layla - that is one beautiful song.
lindainks55 said:
You play the guitar? Someday when we all decide to get together...
So practice for your debut with blog friends!
Nathan said:
Actually,
My father and I ran into JR at the dog show this weekend.
I don't remember which day exactly, but we talked briefly about the dog he used to have and how he was there to check out the breed and to see any old people he might know.
He thanked me for my service and welcomed me home.
He did say he missed posting and I don't remember what he said about the situation on getting his web TV fixed.
He and I both laughed about how it sucks to read the posts here and not be able to post so we just wouldn't.
Thought I would share.
My father and I ran into JR at the dog show this weekend.
I don't remember which day exactly, but we talked briefly about the dog he used to have and how he was there to check out the breed and to see any old people he might know.
He thanked me for my service and welcomed me home.
He did say he missed posting and I don't remember what he said about the situation on getting his web TV fixed.
He and I both laughed about how it sucks to read the posts here and not be able to post so we just wouldn't.
Thought I would share.
darwinsdisciple said:
Thanks, Nathan, for sharing the news. Despite various efforts, I don't think any of us have heard from him. I sent my email to his mom's address, too. So, maybe she can get him the word, if he can't obtain it otherwise.
Aaron Lynch said:
@predestined...you need to choose your username, password, email and hostname.
Other than that you can leave it blank.
Other than that you can leave it blank.
darwinsdisciple said:
I got a "delivery failure" bounce back on the email sent to J R's old web-TV address. Hopefully his mom can get him the word that some of us were trying to reach him.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Good day, all; posting from the igloo, which is beginning to melt a bit...
The following is for those parents and grandparents who have high school age descendants that might (should) be looking at college attendance, if appropriate.
For years, colleges and universities have promoted themselves in a variety of ways; the "view book" is a common way this is done. With the advances in the internet, the view book has become supplemented by the official college web site. Now, the next step in the process; a student produced web page where prospective students may obtain information in a less formal form from actual students attending the school. Not all colleges and universities have these, but it seems the number of schools with such sties is growing.
Now, shameless plug for the younger time: Colby College has recently begun such a site, www.insidecolby.com at which a student looking for information may, among other things, actually ask a current student a question. The younger, unbeknownst to her parents, is one of the Colby students of whom questions may be asked!
I'm passing this along so you may be informed of the existence of these sites, and to show the offspring/descendants just how "with it" you are; thus, when student says something along the lines of I'd like to know more about college X, but I don't know how to do it, you, (trumpets; strewn rose petals) the knowledgeable one, say, why not go to www.schoolx.edu and look at their web page; and, while there, why don't you see if there's a link to a student thing where you can get a current student's insight, and maybe ask them a question?
See how easy that is? The interested party is able to obtain a bit of information without the cumbersome "please add me to your mailing list" signup with Admissions, thereby saving trees and postage while obtaining information which might cause them to become more interested or which might indicate that this really isn't a place to spend four years post-high school.
I hope this is of some assistance to those who are in the position identified above.
The following is for those parents and grandparents who have high school age descendants that might (should) be looking at college attendance, if appropriate.
For years, colleges and universities have promoted themselves in a variety of ways; the "view book" is a common way this is done. With the advances in the internet, the view book has become supplemented by the official college web site. Now, the next step in the process; a student produced web page where prospective students may obtain information in a less formal form from actual students attending the school. Not all colleges and universities have these, but it seems the number of schools with such sties is growing.
Now, shameless plug for the younger time: Colby College has recently begun such a site, www.insidecolby.com at which a student looking for information may, among other things, actually ask a current student a question. The younger, unbeknownst to her parents, is one of the Colby students of whom questions may be asked!
I'm passing this along so you may be informed of the existence of these sites, and to show the offspring/descendants just how "with it" you are; thus, when student says something along the lines of I'd like to know more about college X, but I don't know how to do it, you, (trumpets; strewn rose petals) the knowledgeable one, say, why not go to www.schoolx.edu and look at their web page; and, while there, why don't you see if there's a link to a student thing where you can get a current student's insight, and maybe ask them a question?
See how easy that is? The interested party is able to obtain a bit of information without the cumbersome "please add me to your mailing list" signup with Admissions, thereby saving trees and postage while obtaining information which might cause them to become more interested or which might indicate that this really isn't a place to spend four years post-high school.
I hope this is of some assistance to those who are in the position identified above.
darwinsdisciple said:
This is an email I got from J R:
Hey Steven!
I am here at my Mom's for a few. I was surprised to find this from you.
Hmm where to start?
Well, my webtv keyboard failed completely shortly after my last contact with you. The LAST thing I saw was the nice folks on Wichita voice wanting to help me out. Also, Mike wrote to me. He was sorry and had misunderstood about what you and I were emailing about. That was about a week ago I guess.
I didn't get Mike's email addy before the web died.
Well, here is where I am at. I am so grateful for the offer of help. But I had no idea computers had got so inexpensive these days. I'd not shopped computers for about 8 years. Too, they can do so much more and for cheaper now. SO I am not so hard up as I figured. I thought I was gonna need a thousand dollars!
I think the best place to start is with whatever it is that Mike has and go from there. Anything he would have would be upgradeable probably anyways. And as I found out in my little bit of browsing, I know so little about computers anyways. Now where I could REALLY use help is in finding a good isp for the computer. If you or any of the other folks know of a good inexpensive isp or high speed isp I could use the advice.
Feel free to share this email and tell everyone that I am well and very thankful to have such good friends. Did Hank tell you guys that I saw him at the dog show? Is there any news about meetups or whatever? For now, write me at this email.
Oh and don't worry. I'll be back causing my usual trouble soon enough.
Talk to you soon,
*****
I use AT&T "medium" high speed dsl and have been happy with it. I think I remember Pre- being unhappy with it, but can't recall why that was. Anybody have any other advice on a internet provider?
Hey Steven!
I am here at my Mom's for a few. I was surprised to find this from you.
Hmm where to start?
Well, my webtv keyboard failed completely shortly after my last contact with you. The LAST thing I saw was the nice folks on Wichita voice wanting to help me out. Also, Mike wrote to me. He was sorry and had misunderstood about what you and I were emailing about. That was about a week ago I guess.
I didn't get Mike's email addy before the web died.
Well, here is where I am at. I am so grateful for the offer of help. But I had no idea computers had got so inexpensive these days. I'd not shopped computers for about 8 years. Too, they can do so much more and for cheaper now. SO I am not so hard up as I figured. I thought I was gonna need a thousand dollars!
I think the best place to start is with whatever it is that Mike has and go from there. Anything he would have would be upgradeable probably anyways. And as I found out in my little bit of browsing, I know so little about computers anyways. Now where I could REALLY use help is in finding a good isp for the computer. If you or any of the other folks know of a good inexpensive isp or high speed isp I could use the advice.
Feel free to share this email and tell everyone that I am well and very thankful to have such good friends. Did Hank tell you guys that I saw him at the dog show? Is there any news about meetups or whatever? For now, write me at this email.
Oh and don't worry. I'll be back causing my usual trouble soon enough.
Talk to you soon,
*****
I use AT&T "medium" high speed dsl and have been happy with it. I think I remember Pre- being unhappy with it, but can't recall why that was. Anybody have any other advice on a internet provider?
Predestined said:
DD, the AT&T thing is more personal for me than anything else and related to their long distance services. Basically, they lied to me twice and cost me. My mom did use SBC's DSL for a while, and it was a mess for her, but that could be that she is utterly clueless when it comes to anything beyond the 1950's. Okay, maybe the 1960's. *grin*
What about NetZero? Of course THAT requires a phone line, I'm sure, which brings its own set of problems.
Are the only high-speed choices Cox or AT&T?
What about NetZero? Of course THAT requires a phone line, I'm sure, which brings its own set of problems.
Are the only high-speed choices Cox or AT&T?
Gster said:
Pre- I think there's a local ISP "iwichita" that was a dial up and offered broadband service a few years ago.
I think they are still up and running.
Gary
I think they are still up and running.
Gary
Danny said:
JR,
Likely your current ISP will work with your computer. Just a matter of setting up the computer properly to use it.
As for high-speed choices, the ones I know of:
AT&T, Cox, and Satellite(thought not sure who locally provides that).
Advantages of AT&T and Cox are the same as satellite plus lower lag(if you decide there is a game or two online you want to play). Satellite has the disadvantage of lag(but not for basic browsing purposes) in regards to gaming and that has more to do with distance to and from the satellite.
Dialup I used to use MSN and never once complained. Though, I hear that Netzero is a good choice also. One of my friends used to use PeoplePC, so might be another option also.
Likely your current ISP will work with your computer. Just a matter of setting up the computer properly to use it.
As for high-speed choices, the ones I know of:
AT&T, Cox, and Satellite(thought not sure who locally provides that).
Advantages of AT&T and Cox are the same as satellite plus lower lag(if you decide there is a game or two online you want to play). Satellite has the disadvantage of lag(but not for basic browsing purposes) in regards to gaming and that has more to do with distance to and from the satellite.
Dialup I used to use MSN and never once complained. Though, I hear that Netzero is a good choice also. One of my friends used to use PeoplePC, so might be another option also.
lindainks55 said:
What is the business with their name in large letters atop a tall building downtown -- easily seen from Kellogg? They have high-speed internet service. I called a few years ago and they wouldn't do business unless I gave them my social security number so OF COURSE they didn't get my account.
That was back when I thought I had a chance in hell of protecting my identity. Since that time I have just let it all hang out. Everyone can find me (I'm listed in the book!) and many can find out more than I want them to know. ;)
I use SBC and have no problems. The phone lines in my neighborhodd are buried and we don't have interruptions of service. In order to get the best price you have to sign a contract and the longer term you allow, the better the price. Ends up with a two-year contract you pay approx. $20/month and get one month free. BE FOREWARNED! If you break the contract the penalty can be expensive.
I can hardly wait to have J R back! Good news!
That was back when I thought I had a chance in hell of protecting my identity. Since that time I have just let it all hang out. Everyone can find me (I'm listed in the book!) and many can find out more than I want them to know. ;)
I use SBC and have no problems. The phone lines in my neighborhodd are buried and we don't have interruptions of service. In order to get the best price you have to sign a contract and the longer term you allow, the better the price. Ends up with a two-year contract you pay approx. $20/month and get one month free. BE FOREWARNED! If you break the contract the penalty can be expensive.
I can hardly wait to have J R back! Good news!
Predestined said:
Ryan, you're right. Very disturbing.
"...to teach them that a woman's value isn't predicated on her sexuality."
I'd add to the quote from the article above, that a woman's value isn't predicated on having a partner, either. (No offense intended to men.)
"...to teach them that a woman's value isn't predicated on her sexuality."
I'd add to the quote from the article above, that a woman's value isn't predicated on having a partner, either. (No offense intended to men.)
Predestined said:
Danny,
I have friends who have Satellite for internet use, in addition to TV, and there have been problems for them when there are storms. Now, that could be only area-related, so it wouldn't necessarily be a negative for someone here in Wichita.
I have friends who have Satellite for internet use, in addition to TV, and there have been problems for them when there are storms. Now, that could be only area-related, so it wouldn't necessarily be a negative for someone here in Wichita.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Yes, Ryan, extremely disturbing. I've had an inkling that this is occurring through conversations with various school personnel over the last year or so, and thus am glad something is being considered/done, depending upon how one reads the story and which entity is involved, to address this.
Perhaps more disturbing (if anything can be) is the part concerning "second generation" prostitution, which calls into question many, many things, including but not limited to the apparent failure of our educational system; the criminal justice system; and other aspects of our social institutions.
Perhaps more disturbing (if anything can be) is the part concerning "second generation" prostitution, which calls into question many, many things, including but not limited to the apparent failure of our educational system; the criminal justice system; and other aspects of our social institutions.
tracyaphillips said:
Okay, not to take the seriousness of this lightly,
but....an old Wichita story, 79 or 80 I believe.
A close friend and myself going down south Brdwy.
We come to a stoplight, a couple of ladies standing there. One comes up to the car and asks my friend if he needs a 'date'. Without missin' a beat, he asks, "How much for just a BJ?"
The ladie replies 20, 25$ or sumpin like that.
Ol' buddy replies, "That seems fair, I'll make it 50$ if you and you friend will wax my car instead!"
(hearing a stream of obscenities as we leave on the green light)
but....an old Wichita story, 79 or 80 I believe.
A close friend and myself going down south Brdwy.
We come to a stoplight, a couple of ladies standing there. One comes up to the car and asks my friend if he needs a 'date'. Without missin' a beat, he asks, "How much for just a BJ?"
The ladie replies 20, 25$ or sumpin like that.
Ol' buddy replies, "That seems fair, I'll make it 50$ if you and you friend will wax my car instead!"
(hearing a stream of obscenities as we leave on the green light)
Danny said:
Ryan,
I wouldn't find it 'surprising' necessarily. However, I don't have alot to say regarding it either other than the obvious that it seems sad. It just seems this trend is growing, and well I'm glad to see something proactive being sought to address it.
It is one of the reasons why I want to work in law enforcement, to stop crimes like this against children(and people in general). Just don't want to do it at the local level.
I wouldn't find it 'surprising' necessarily. However, I don't have alot to say regarding it either other than the obvious that it seems sad. It just seems this trend is growing, and well I'm glad to see something proactive being sought to address it.
It is one of the reasons why I want to work in law enforcement, to stop crimes like this against children(and people in general). Just don't want to do it at the local level.
Predestined said:
I know a tale about a girl that my oldest daughters went to school with. She drove a brand new fancy car from Rusty Eck Ford for...free not long after she graduated. Guess why?
Different girl works at Michelle's Beach House. Not that exotic dancers are bad, but no telling what this one does on the side, considering things I know about her.
I am eternally grateful that none of my girls took either route. Not that they're perfect. They've had to learn some lessons the hard way. But even through those, I often reminded myself that it could have been worse.
{{{HUGS}}} to all the parents out there!
Danny, yes, it is sad. Sad for society and even sadder for those girls. Here's hoping that someday you'll have a way to help them.
And shame on the men who are buying the favors of these young girls!
Different girl works at Michelle's Beach House. Not that exotic dancers are bad, but no telling what this one does on the side, considering things I know about her.
I am eternally grateful that none of my girls took either route. Not that they're perfect. They've had to learn some lessons the hard way. But even through those, I often reminded myself that it could have been worse.
{{{HUGS}}} to all the parents out there!
Danny, yes, it is sad. Sad for society and even sadder for those girls. Here's hoping that someday you'll have a way to help them.
And shame on the men who are buying the favors of these young girls!
lindainks55 said:
"Federal law requires the preservation of electronic communications sent or received by White House staff," says the handbook that all staffers are given and expected to read and comply with.
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said, "I guess the bottom line is that our policy at the White House was not clear enough for employees."
Do we have people on the White House staff who can't read or is it cmprehension that is the problem? Couldn't be anything else!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/links...
White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said, "I guess the bottom line is that our policy at the White House was not clear enough for employees."
Do we have people on the White House staff who can't read or is it cmprehension that is the problem? Couldn't be anything else!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/links...
Gster said:
Linda- I hear the oncoming of the "bad mouse" defense!
What else could it be?
Bad, bad mouses.. errrr uhhh ....meeces!
What else could it be?
Bad, bad mouses.. errrr uhhh ....meeces!
lindainks55 said:
Gary, Your duty as an American citizen with more sense and higher moral and ethical codes of conduct than MANY requires you to send an email explaining the problem. Now, I'm not sure which account your helpful email should be sent to. We wouldn't want it erased! I'll bet you're even smart enough to know that what was erased isn't necessarily lost...
Vaughn Tolle said:
Gster, I think your "bad mouse" defense needs sharing; it's as least as plausible as the "Hatch Act" defense being floated by someone (forget who) that was explaining how the staffers had access to the different servers, etc.
Linda, not being a conspiracy theorist, I think your explanations posted at 1:30 have to be correct; I'd likely add "incompetent" to the list, although your two descriptions likely include the same by implication.
Looks like the preliminary discussion longhorn and I began a while back about the use of RNC servers for "official" email is coming to the forefront as this grinds on.
Linda, not being a conspiracy theorist, I think your explanations posted at 1:30 have to be correct; I'd likely add "incompetent" to the list, although your two descriptions likely include the same by implication.
Looks like the preliminary discussion longhorn and I began a while back about the use of RNC servers for "official" email is coming to the forefront as this grinds on.
Gster said:
Linda- I guess it could also be the case they were erased even before they were sent??
That might qualify as the dreaded "double secret erasure"! It's a Black Hole thing, I guess.
That might qualify as the dreaded "double secret erasure"! It's a Black Hole thing, I guess.
lindainks55 said:
Can someone remind me how many seconds of THAT long ago tape were erased and what were the consequences?
It's a new scandal every day! Sucks to look in long hidden dark corners.
I can't remember where I read it or the exact details so I'm winging this one. At the White House when the official Easter egg hunt was being held in inclement weather, Laura sat inside in a nook reading a book out loud. It was about a duck that left the farm and went to the big city to be president. But after awhile he found out it was too hard so he went back to the farm.
Did anyone else read this and would be able to fill in the blanks I don't remember? Like the name of the book?
It's a new scandal every day! Sucks to look in long hidden dark corners.
I can't remember where I read it or the exact details so I'm winging this one. At the White House when the official Easter egg hunt was being held in inclement weather, Laura sat inside in a nook reading a book out loud. It was about a duck that left the farm and went to the big city to be president. But after awhile he found out it was too hard so he went back to the farm.
Did anyone else read this and would be able to fill in the blanks I don't remember? Like the name of the book?
Vaughn Tolle said:
Linda, wasn't it 18 1/2 minutes on the tape? Rosemary Wood and all that. I think the article, the link to which I posted at 3:33, has a reference to that tape.
Vaughn Tolle said:
On the book; I think my wife would know, but I can't call her; maybe I can post it tomorrow, assuming she does remember, and I remember to ask!
So, anyone else know so I don't have to remember and then remember....
So, anyone else know so I don't have to remember and then remember....
Gster said:
Linda- I remember- the duck went back to the farm, but they wouldn't let him in because things were going so much better without him , and they didn't want to take any chances..
He went into town, Craw fish I think, and became a drunken duck. After repeated jailings, etc., he finally cleaned up his "bill", changed parties and went on to become the Aflac spokesduck.
The morale of the story is if you change parties correctly, anything is possible! If not, you're still a loser duck!
Quake, not woof!
He went into town, Craw fish I think, and became a drunken duck. After repeated jailings, etc., he finally cleaned up his "bill", changed parties and went on to become the Aflac spokesduck.
The morale of the story is if you change parties correctly, anything is possible! If not, you're still a loser duck!
Quake, not woof!
lindainks55 said:
You were laughing too hard to remember how to spell quack, right!? I was!
Gotta tell you Gary you were reading a different source than I did. But I want to read where you do.
Gotta tell you Gary you were reading a different source than I did. But I want to read where you do.
Vaughn Tolle said:
The author of the linked article expresses my concerns over the "Duke rape prosecution" and the firing of U.S. Attorneys more articulately and succinctly that I am able to do.
http://www.slate.com/id/2163862/
http://www.slate.com/id/2163862/
Predestined said:
Sounds like that duck became lame and is now dead.
The people in Craw fish never did like him. (Ask them sometime.)
The people in Craw fish never did like him. (Ask them sometime.)
lindainks55 said:
"When politics are injected into these individual prosecutions—when officials have one eye on the law and the other on mollifying either the party bosses or local voters—it's a certainty that justice will be lost in the shuffle."
So sad! Sadder (to me) is I can't find a place for the kind of politics we see most of today! There has never been a president / administration that has made me question their every word and action like this group. bushco have tarnished more than our country's reputation. Only history will show the level of corruption the last six years have brought.
I saw an ad for a new watch -- it counts down the time bush has left in office. I am always asked at this time of year what I would like for Mother's Day. I always respond, "Your love and thoughts." And like all mothers that is the absolute truth! I have way more than I need and there will never be anything more precious than the love of my family. But this year I may have to mention this watch! I would like to see the time click down.
So sad! Sadder (to me) is I can't find a place for the kind of politics we see most of today! There has never been a president / administration that has made me question their every word and action like this group. bushco have tarnished more than our country's reputation. Only history will show the level of corruption the last six years have brought.
I saw an ad for a new watch -- it counts down the time bush has left in office. I am always asked at this time of year what I would like for Mother's Day. I always respond, "Your love and thoughts." And like all mothers that is the absolute truth! I have way more than I need and there will never be anything more precious than the love of my family. But this year I may have to mention this watch! I would like to see the time click down.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Linda, hope you get your watch!
On the topic of administrations whose words and actions you question; for me, the second Nixon administration comes close; perhaps the last 18 months of the Lyndon Johnson administration.
I wonder if the current state of "politics" is a direct effect of the "Permanent Republican Majority" desires of Mr. Rove. Perhaps the polarization began earlier; it seems that it has worsened over the past six years plus; not good.
On the topic of administrations whose words and actions you question; for me, the second Nixon administration comes close; perhaps the last 18 months of the Lyndon Johnson administration.
I wonder if the current state of "politics" is a direct effect of the "Permanent Republican Majority" desires of Mr. Rove. Perhaps the polarization began earlier; it seems that it has worsened over the past six years plus; not good.
gster said:
The duck's name was "Wub"; he had beady eyes and a thousand yard stare. He couldn't hold down a steady job, and was constantly mispronouncing his quacks.
And then, the plot thickens..........
And then, the plot thickens..........
Gster said:
I read in this mornings paper, that an analysis of tissue found on a 60 million plus year old TRex, indicated its closest relative was a chicken!
My advice- don't mess with Chicken Man, he might just up and eat your ass for an hor'derve!
My advice- don't mess with Chicken Man, he might just up and eat your ass for an hor'derve!
lindainks55 said:
I went out onto "the internets" and found the name of the book along with its author (Duck for President by Doreen Cronin), but I'm enjoying your book way too much to spoil the chickening plot. I am still wondering if it was Laura who chose the book she read aloud and why THAT book no matter who chose it??).
Steven, The book you sent came in yesterday's mail. Today looks like an excellent day to curl up with a book. Fate?
Hank, Many bloggers here have introduced threads we've all discussed very politely and with all our differing opinions respected. We have talked often of things political but certainly enjoyed other topics our bloggers introduced such as: Crime & Justice, Bluetooth Headsets, Buying A Car, Mass Transit and others. And we're a new and ever growing group to Wichita Voice. Liberals are quite capable of thinking and keeping abreast of diverse topics.
We also enjoy life and know how to have fun.
Steven, The book you sent came in yesterday's mail. Today looks like an excellent day to curl up with a book. Fate?
Hank, Many bloggers here have introduced threads we've all discussed very politely and with all our differing opinions respected. We have talked often of things political but certainly enjoyed other topics our bloggers introduced such as: Crime & Justice, Bluetooth Headsets, Buying A Car, Mass Transit and others. And we're a new and ever growing group to Wichita Voice. Liberals are quite capable of thinking and keeping abreast of diverse topics.
We also enjoy life and know how to have fun.
Gster said:
Linda- Yes, this definitely is duck weather.
On days like this, I tell the few co-workers that come near me that with weather like this, it's a good day for an axe murder.
That usually leads to a trouble-free day!
On days like this, I tell the few co-workers that come near me that with weather like this, it's a good day for an axe murder.
That usually leads to a trouble-free day!
Wendy said:
G -
I sure wish you would tell some of my customers that! You know it's never going to be a good day when you get a call from the Wichita PD regarding one of your customers...
Yikes!
I sure wish you would tell some of my customers that! You know it's never going to be a good day when you get a call from the Wichita PD regarding one of your customers...
Yikes!
Predestined said:
Duck weather? From the sound of the forecast for later tonight, it's going to be penguin weather. Okay, that's stretching it a bit, but what's with Old Man Winter not giving it up to Spring the way he should?
Speaking of penguins, has anyone see the movie, Happy Feet? It's quite a comment about those who don't fit Society's mold. That and a couple of other things. The music was good, too. :)
Speaking of penguins, has anyone see the movie, Happy Feet? It's quite a comment about those who don't fit Society's mold. That and a couple of other things. The music was good, too. :)
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