Vaughn Tolle said:
Just stopping by to see what's going on. The next few weeks will be interesting, to borrow Rummy's word usage. It's either feast or famine, and right now, feast is happening. Beats the heck out of nothing to do, to be sure.
Gster said:
VT- I presume you're referring to Iraq. The "surge" might be showing some successes, but it's really too early to know for sure. It seems that we are playing "wack-a-mole"-i.e. , where we go, they leave and etc., which is classic guerrilla tactics. It seems that in spite of the additional manpower surge , we are still trying to win with too small a force, and if the Iraqi forces can't stand up and perform now, they never will!
lindainks55 said:
Good to see both of you here, Vaughn and Gary. I miss the days we used to visit. I've gotten a lot more accomplished since I decided I was talking to myself and weaned myself from too much time on blogging. But I still miss those days...
And, Gary, I read VT's post as he is very busy and has less time. But your interpretation could also be accurate. So, maybe he covered both topics with one explanation! He is good, isnt' he!?
And, Gary, I read VT's post as he is very busy and has less time. But your interpretation could also be accurate. So, maybe he covered both topics with one explanation! He is good, isnt' he!?
Danny said:
While looking around today for a topic to discuss, I've not come up with an interesting topic in computers to talk about. Unless we want to talk about Plucker coordinates? ;)
So I decided to cover some of the encryption schemes that I didn't cover in last weeks writeup. Recall last week, I covered public/private key and how it was used in my game.
This week I'll talk about symmetric(or keep it a secret key) encryption scheme. In my game I use this also to protect your data. So recall, I stated that my server sends a session key that used for the remainder of the clients connection to the server? This is the key that is used for symmetric encryption.
But I said, don't send it to people unencrypted. Exactly. I encrypted it using the clients randomly generated public key, and only the clients private key(generated at the same time) can read the message.
Symmetric algorithms have the advantage of speed over their public/private key counterparts. So no two clients will ever have the same symmetric key, as it is randomly generated at the time a client connects, which is exactly what is wanted when trying to protect data.
Why would I do this for a simple card game though? Because curiosity gets the best of me every time. I just had to see how it worked. Eventually, when the third iteration of the game is finished, I'll give my personal website where the game can be downloaded from. What is there now is the second incarnation and it isn't as good as it could be. So when that is done, I'll release the website. :D
In the mean time have fun!
So I decided to cover some of the encryption schemes that I didn't cover in last weeks writeup. Recall last week, I covered public/private key and how it was used in my game.
This week I'll talk about symmetric(or keep it a secret key) encryption scheme. In my game I use this also to protect your data. So recall, I stated that my server sends a session key that used for the remainder of the clients connection to the server? This is the key that is used for symmetric encryption.
But I said, don't send it to people unencrypted. Exactly. I encrypted it using the clients randomly generated public key, and only the clients private key(generated at the same time) can read the message.
Symmetric algorithms have the advantage of speed over their public/private key counterparts. So no two clients will ever have the same symmetric key, as it is randomly generated at the time a client connects, which is exactly what is wanted when trying to protect data.
Why would I do this for a simple card game though? Because curiosity gets the best of me every time. I just had to see how it worked. Eventually, when the third iteration of the game is finished, I'll give my personal website where the game can be downloaded from. What is there now is the second incarnation and it isn't as good as it could be. So when that is done, I'll release the website. :D
In the mean time have fun!
Danny said:
Gster,
Your thoughts. If the surge shows "actual" signs of success, what is the measure of success that must be met to decide that the surge was successful? Then the follow up question becomes if we are seeing success then at what level of success do we start talking about leaving? or increasing Iraqi responsibility first then slow withdraws?
Anyway, I'm really waiting to see how much progress has been made and I'm willing to give it a fair review in so far as if it is working great what does that mean? and if it isn't working, when are we coming home?
Your thoughts. If the surge shows "actual" signs of success, what is the measure of success that must be met to decide that the surge was successful? Then the follow up question becomes if we are seeing success then at what level of success do we start talking about leaving? or increasing Iraqi responsibility first then slow withdraws?
Anyway, I'm really waiting to see how much progress has been made and I'm willing to give it a fair review in so far as if it is working great what does that mean? and if it isn't working, when are we coming home?
Gster said:
Danny- Good question: How do you Objectively measure something that you see Subjectively?
I personally think the problem there will never be solved because I don't see how there can be a Military/Police force(s) whose members view their responsibilities as Iraqis charged with uniformly applying the Law to all ,regardless of their Sect, Tribe, Clan, etc., affiliations. As it stands, they can't see beyond Shea/Sunni considerations. Look at how ineffective the Government is in simply deciding anything!
What's really upsetting the the fact that this problem was well known prior to our taking any action, and it was still ignored!
Take it away, George.
I personally think the problem there will never be solved because I don't see how there can be a Military/Police force(s) whose members view their responsibilities as Iraqis charged with uniformly applying the Law to all ,regardless of their Sect, Tribe, Clan, etc., affiliations. As it stands, they can't see beyond Shea/Sunni considerations. Look at how ineffective the Government is in simply deciding anything!
What's really upsetting the the fact that this problem was well known prior to our taking any action, and it was still ignored!
Take it away, George.
lindainks55 said:
Rudy has a lot of problems. This seems to be the latest to be exposed. But did you notice that the party of morals doesn't mind if their own have none? There will be NO tolerance for views other than those they intend to push down everyone's throats, unless one of their own deserves such! Seems as long as life before birth is protected, who has sex with whom is carefully controlled, which religion is or isn't worthy, as long as war is waged on those who disagree, well, everything is just hunky dory.
Love thy neighbor as thyself? NOPE, no money or power in that kind of thinking.
THEIR God really does favor one person, one nationality, one religion, one culture over another and their agenda of domination and brutality will rightly claim authorization from the essence of unconditional love.
and the beat goes on...
Love thy neighbor as thyself? NOPE, no money or power in that kind of thinking.
THEIR God really does favor one person, one nationality, one religion, one culture over another and their agenda of domination and brutality will rightly claim authorization from the essence of unconditional love.
and the beat goes on...
lindainks55 said:
I see where bush will veto the bill to fund ESC research again today. He will save those clumps of cells from research so they may be incinerated as medical waste. Of course, he won't tell anyone that's what will happen to the life that must be protected from protecting life.
When we have a new president we will fund the research that will bring treatments and cures for all, even bush. Science won't exclude anyone.
When we have a new president we will fund the research that will bring treatments and cures for all, even bush. Science won't exclude anyone.
Danny said:
Gster,
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree, it is subjective. I think along similar lines in so far as the inability of some(Shia, Sunni, and others) not looking beyond a few semantic differences to solve their countries problems.
Linda,
I care about the morals of the party I belong to. As such, I weigh that in to who I vote for, ie is the what is "preached" followed. However, I don't vote strictly along party lines during the "real" election. Just certain things I think are beyond moral and even protected in our constitution. I try to do a good job of separating my religion from my debates. :D
We know I'm against abortion(but when one sees how I define life then one can see why). I'm also against all the "marriage" talk when then we find them going around sleeping with the mistress(es). Based solely on religious beliefs, I think homosexuality is wrong, but at the same time I see that causing no harm, so I see nothing against civil unions or a form of marriage to allow for privileges like health insurance being extended to partners.
On the ESC topic, I was reading a couple of weeks ago, that there are some new advances in stem cell research using skin cells(I think) to more or less make them behave like ESC cells. Was reading it by Dr. Gitlin on the arstechnica.com website. However, it appears to have a draw back at the moment, tumors. I think I recall ESC having the same problem also right now. Correct me if I am wrong on that count.
http://tinyurl.com/2f2f79
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree, it is subjective. I think along similar lines in so far as the inability of some(Shia, Sunni, and others) not looking beyond a few semantic differences to solve their countries problems.
Linda,
I care about the morals of the party I belong to. As such, I weigh that in to who I vote for, ie is the what is "preached" followed. However, I don't vote strictly along party lines during the "real" election. Just certain things I think are beyond moral and even protected in our constitution. I try to do a good job of separating my religion from my debates. :D
We know I'm against abortion(but when one sees how I define life then one can see why). I'm also against all the "marriage" talk when then we find them going around sleeping with the mistress(es). Based solely on religious beliefs, I think homosexuality is wrong, but at the same time I see that causing no harm, so I see nothing against civil unions or a form of marriage to allow for privileges like health insurance being extended to partners.
On the ESC topic, I was reading a couple of weeks ago, that there are some new advances in stem cell research using skin cells(I think) to more or less make them behave like ESC cells. Was reading it by Dr. Gitlin on the arstechnica.com website. However, it appears to have a draw back at the moment, tumors. I think I recall ESC having the same problem also right now. Correct me if I am wrong on that count.
http://tinyurl.com/2f2f79
Danny said:
Another article for today's enjoyment. A renewable energy source that doesn't appear to need to use water to generate petroleum based products. Probably a little far off into the future, but nice to see research being done to reduce/remove our demand on foreign oil.
http://tinyurl.com/yr3lpt
http://tinyurl.com/yr3lpt
lindainks55 said:
No, you aren't wrong, Danny. Actually, my son was the first to fuse skin cells with ESC cells, causing the adult skin cells to turn back to their embryonic form. He was recognized world wide for that research. And advances on that research have been made.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/daily/2005/08/...
Keep in mind when thinking about stem cell research and trying to justify one kind over another that adult stem cells have been used in research since the 1940s and only in the last 10 - 15 years have treatments been discovered. Those have limits also (mainly their programming has been turned OFF). Embryonic stem cells were DISCOVERED less than 10 years ago. So there are still limits, yes.
This is the second time Congress has passed this bill. It's not about Republicans or Democrats - it's about this president. There is a good possibility that many diseases can be treated by ES cell therapy. There are many bugs to work out, but given sufficient time and financial resources, it's a good bet the at least some diseases will be treated.
I know you care about the morals of those elected. I am disappointed, concerned and often angry at what I see as a broken government. We have an Executive Branch out of control and those who are to oversee and hold them accountable are all too busy selling their souls to the highest bidder in hopes of reelection. This also seems NOT to be about Republicans or Democrats and will only have a chance of being fixed if WE THE PEOPLE don't demand change and improvement. Hold their feet to the fire (ALL of them) and make sure they know we're paying close attention. Why aren't more of us paying close attention? It's our money, our country, the future we will leave our children and grandchildren.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/daily/2005/08/...
Keep in mind when thinking about stem cell research and trying to justify one kind over another that adult stem cells have been used in research since the 1940s and only in the last 10 - 15 years have treatments been discovered. Those have limits also (mainly their programming has been turned OFF). Embryonic stem cells were DISCOVERED less than 10 years ago. So there are still limits, yes.
This is the second time Congress has passed this bill. It's not about Republicans or Democrats - it's about this president. There is a good possibility that many diseases can be treated by ES cell therapy. There are many bugs to work out, but given sufficient time and financial resources, it's a good bet the at least some diseases will be treated.
I know you care about the morals of those elected. I am disappointed, concerned and often angry at what I see as a broken government. We have an Executive Branch out of control and those who are to oversee and hold them accountable are all too busy selling their souls to the highest bidder in hopes of reelection. This also seems NOT to be about Republicans or Democrats and will only have a chance of being fixed if WE THE PEOPLE don't demand change and improvement. Hold their feet to the fire (ALL of them) and make sure they know we're paying close attention. Why aren't more of us paying close attention? It's our money, our country, the future we will leave our children and grandchildren.
lindainks55 said:
Here's hoping you can read what I meant to say, not what I typed.
WE THE PEOPLE demand change... (Leave the "don't" out.)
WE THE PEOPLE demand change... (Leave the "don't" out.)
Danny said:
Linda,
About the ESC, I know it is a young field when compared to ASC. The only real reason I'm not entirely supportive of it, is would it lead to harvesting of embryos? I know that under the current bill the limitation is to embryos that are going to be discarded. Tell your son congratulations for me. That was a neat article.
Me, I'd like to make a better system for seeing the lane markers on road ways when it rains. Maybe a nice little LED based lighting system that comes on as cars approach, bright enough to be seen by the driver but not by planes. Lets not use the recent raining as my basis for that thought though(no matter how true it might be).
About politics strangely enough, I agree. I'd get involved in politics but there are really a number of reasons why I don't want to: I'm afraid I'd become corrupted by money and power and secondly do I really want that kind of power?
Yet, maybe what it takes to affect the changes we need(or perceive we need) are to get people who wouldn't otherwise run for office to run for office. No matter though, who ever runs and is in office has alot of work that is going to be faced and a fair number of difficult decisions are going to have to be made.
About the ESC, I know it is a young field when compared to ASC. The only real reason I'm not entirely supportive of it, is would it lead to harvesting of embryos? I know that under the current bill the limitation is to embryos that are going to be discarded. Tell your son congratulations for me. That was a neat article.
Me, I'd like to make a better system for seeing the lane markers on road ways when it rains. Maybe a nice little LED based lighting system that comes on as cars approach, bright enough to be seen by the driver but not by planes. Lets not use the recent raining as my basis for that thought though(no matter how true it might be).
About politics strangely enough, I agree. I'd get involved in politics but there are really a number of reasons why I don't want to: I'm afraid I'd become corrupted by money and power and secondly do I really want that kind of power?
Yet, maybe what it takes to affect the changes we need(or perceive we need) are to get people who wouldn't otherwise run for office to run for office. No matter though, who ever runs and is in office has alot of work that is going to be faced and a fair number of difficult decisions are going to have to be made.
lindainks55 said:
WOW! Danny, you come up with solutions to a problem I wasn't even aware of! I am often amazed at the things a good mind like yours can do. Thank goodness. If it was left up to people like me we would be in a sorry state. Did you drive in a rain storm that obscured the lane markers? And if it was a problem your mind just went straight to solutions... Amazing.
Danny said:
Yeah, one of the times my wife and I went to visit her parents it rained on the way. Being at night, it made it much more difficult to see the lane markers than what I think it should be. As for the idea, I thought it would be nice if we could just light up the markers at night, though it would be more costly I think it would help with night driving even more.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny, in some states, there is a reflective substance placed in the lane markers, making them much easier to see in the rain/dark than just painted lines. IIRC, Washington State uses these, at least on the major highways. Seem to recall the use of the same in the Northeast states (which ones, I don't recall).
I like your idea, though. As my eyes age, it is difficult sometimes at night (even without precip) to easily distinguish the lines, etc.
I like your idea, though. As my eyes age, it is difficult sometimes at night (even without precip) to easily distinguish the lines, etc.
Danny said:
Vaughn,
See that would be nice also, the dull paint that is used is pretty bad. The reflective paint isn't so bad either. I'd go for that as it would cost less, even if not working as well as an "electric" solution but cost benefit I'd think the reflective paints would be better.
See that would be nice also, the dull paint that is used is pretty bad. The reflective paint isn't so bad either. I'd go for that as it would cost less, even if not working as well as an "electric" solution but cost benefit I'd think the reflective paints would be better.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny, I agree that reflective paints would be better. While it has been some 30 years since last in the Seattle area, it seems to me that there were "glass" beads imbedded into the stripes, as it were, which reflected the headlights.
Danny said:
Vaughn,
I believe you are right about glass beads. I know on K-States campus that is what they did. Makes a pretty decent difference.
I believe you are right about glass beads. I know on K-States campus that is what they did. Makes a pretty decent difference.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny, it's my understanding that in recent years, the glass beads used in such striping are made from recycled glass, a way to kill two birds with one stone, so to speak. I wonder what the additional cost is to the governmental entity might be to use any reflective paint/beads vs. normal highway striping paint. It seems it would be worth the extra cost, which I cannot believe would be substantial.
Danny said:
Vaughn,
I wouldn't think it would terribly much, and recycled glass beads seems to be an excellent way to not have to make glass specific for the purpose. Certainly there would be a little additional cost, but I think the gain outweighs the cost.
I guess the follow up question becomes, how long does the paint remain reflective after it is put down on the road? Is the lifespan shorter or at least relatively the same? I suspect somewhat shorter because the beads may get caught in tire treads and start to affect the paint on the road a little bit. I've no numbers or data to back up that claim though I'd wager it exists somewhere.
I wouldn't think it would terribly much, and recycled glass beads seems to be an excellent way to not have to make glass specific for the purpose. Certainly there would be a little additional cost, but I think the gain outweighs the cost.
I guess the follow up question becomes, how long does the paint remain reflective after it is put down on the road? Is the lifespan shorter or at least relatively the same? I suspect somewhat shorter because the beads may get caught in tire treads and start to affect the paint on the road a little bit. I've no numbers or data to back up that claim though I'd wager it exists somewhere.
Vaughn Tolle said:
If Open Source Software (OSS) is good enough for the U.S. Navy, what's holding others back?
http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=2831160&C=ameri...
http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=2831160&C=ameri...
Danny said:
Vaughn,
I use open source software all the time. However, I think for some open source is "too difficult" to use. Ubuntu is an exception to that, though some things are still more difficult than need be(setting up wireless is a pain in the butt in Linux if it doesn't support your hardware directly).
However, I think many people would find things like: OpenOffice usable and friendly enough(for most small to medium size offices) and GIMP is good for image professionals(my wife uses that for wedding photography).
When speaking Operating Systems(Windows, *nix, and MAC OSX as examples), I think the general user finds Windows and OSX easy to use and understand for the most part. I'll admit, I use Linux where it seems its strongest point is: web development and Windows for desktop client applications(and games, I do play video games).
Ultimately, it comes down to: what are your needs? and what suite of utilities are you going need to meet those needs?
I use open source software all the time. However, I think for some open source is "too difficult" to use. Ubuntu is an exception to that, though some things are still more difficult than need be(setting up wireless is a pain in the butt in Linux if it doesn't support your hardware directly).
However, I think many people would find things like: OpenOffice usable and friendly enough(for most small to medium size offices) and GIMP is good for image professionals(my wife uses that for wedding photography).
When speaking Operating Systems(Windows, *nix, and MAC OSX as examples), I think the general user finds Windows and OSX easy to use and understand for the most part. I'll admit, I use Linux where it seems its strongest point is: web development and Windows for desktop client applications(and games, I do play video games).
Ultimately, it comes down to: what are your needs? and what suite of utilities are you going need to meet those needs?
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny, as a Ubuntu (7.04) user, I agree that it is more friendly to the user than many other Linux distros. The link I posted yesterday was one I ran across after reading an article titled (IIRC) "10 Reasons NOT to Use Linux" which I should have also linked.
As to ease of use, it's what one has learned, I suspect. I cut my teeth personal computer-wise back in the CP/M days, so going to the command line doesn't cause me any distress. Compared to some of the issues I had "back then", any difficulties with Linux for the most part seem trivial. With that said, I agree with you on the wireless part, not that I have it, but in reading various posts on the Ubuntu Forum by those frustrated with setting up their wireless, clearly it can be a pain.
I'm not a gamer, so the issues with Linux vs. Windows regarding games is something of no moment for me. For gamers, though, this is a definite problem in totally leaving the Windows environment.
For those who would like to try out some OSS, may I suggest Firefox as a web browser and the OpenOffice suite Danny mentioned for word-processing and spreadsheets. These are available for "free" (as in beer) on the web, and can be obtained in versions which operate under Windows. I use both, and have no real complaints, other than about lazy web site designers who make their sites available only to those running IE due to their choice of web development software.
Of course, with all that said, here I am on my Mac running Linux instead of OSX, which I was too cheap to purchase. There seems to be a bit of decline in PPC Linux from the major players (Debian excepted); Ubuntu no longer "officially supports" it. I am aware of Yellow Dog, Fedora and OpenSUSE, but haven't tried them out, as to date, Ubuntu has met my needs.
As to ease of use, it's what one has learned, I suspect. I cut my teeth personal computer-wise back in the CP/M days, so going to the command line doesn't cause me any distress. Compared to some of the issues I had "back then", any difficulties with Linux for the most part seem trivial. With that said, I agree with you on the wireless part, not that I have it, but in reading various posts on the Ubuntu Forum by those frustrated with setting up their wireless, clearly it can be a pain.
I'm not a gamer, so the issues with Linux vs. Windows regarding games is something of no moment for me. For gamers, though, this is a definite problem in totally leaving the Windows environment.
For those who would like to try out some OSS, may I suggest Firefox as a web browser and the OpenOffice suite Danny mentioned for word-processing and spreadsheets. These are available for "free" (as in beer) on the web, and can be obtained in versions which operate under Windows. I use both, and have no real complaints, other than about lazy web site designers who make their sites available only to those running IE due to their choice of web development software.
Of course, with all that said, here I am on my Mac running Linux instead of OSX, which I was too cheap to purchase. There seems to be a bit of decline in PPC Linux from the major players (Debian excepted); Ubuntu no longer "officially supports" it. I am aware of Yellow Dog, Fedora and OpenSUSE, but haven't tried them out, as to date, Ubuntu has met my needs.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Danny (and anyone else with an interest),
Link to a recent post on a blog maintained by a Ubuntu Linux user who is, IMHO, very thoughtful and articulate about various issues. He's not a zealot, just a high school teacher who has devoted a substantial portion of his days in the last few years to Ubuntu Linux in particular, and helping countless folks (me included) through his thoughtful posts on the Forum, his tutorials (see http://psychocats.net), and general level-headed approach.
http://ubuntucat.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/types-of...
Link to a recent post on a blog maintained by a Ubuntu Linux user who is, IMHO, very thoughtful and articulate about various issues. He's not a zealot, just a high school teacher who has devoted a substantial portion of his days in the last few years to Ubuntu Linux in particular, and helping countless folks (me included) through his thoughtful posts on the Forum, his tutorials (see http://psychocats.net), and general level-headed approach.
http://ubuntucat.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/types-of...
Vaughn Tolle said:
One other OSS app that I use is Thunderbird. Thunderbird is an email client. easily set up and configured.
Vaughn Tolle said:
Duh. After encouraging all to explore OSS, didn't provide links.
For Firefox and Thunderbird:
http://www.mozilla.com
For OpenOffice:
http://www.openoffice.org
Take a look if interested.
For Firefox and Thunderbird:
http://www.mozilla.com
For OpenOffice:
http://www.openoffice.org
Take a look if interested.
Danny said:
Vaughn,
It isn't as though not all Windows games can not be played in Linux. I've successfully run World of Warcraft in Linux using Wine. As for the various distributions of Linux I've used: Suse, Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu, and CPUbuilders. I've looked into trying CentOS but have not yet. Ubuntu is by far and away the easiest to use and learn. Another interesting free OS, ReactOS(found at http://www.reactos.org) is progressing somewhat nicely is a complete open source implementation of Windows(I'll like to see how long that lasts).
I recommend heavily FireFox(though Apple did release Safari for Windows) and OpenOffice as alternatives to other pay for software.
It isn't as though not all Windows games can not be played in Linux. I've successfully run World of Warcraft in Linux using Wine. As for the various distributions of Linux I've used: Suse, Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu, and CPUbuilders. I've looked into trying CentOS but have not yet. Ubuntu is by far and away the easiest to use and learn. Another interesting free OS, ReactOS(found at http://www.reactos.org) is progressing somewhat nicely is a complete open source implementation of Windows(I'll like to see how long that lasts).
I recommend heavily FireFox(though Apple did release Safari for Windows) and OpenOffice as alternatives to other pay for software.
lindainks55 said:
Received this email from Julie. She sent it to all she has an email addy for and asked it be shared. What better place than here to share!?
Blog meetup is Saturday June 30 from 12 noon to 4 p.m. We will be in Shelter #4. When you enter the park, turn right and it's the furthest north. It's close to the restrooms and the rides.
This is a pot luck meetup. I'll be bringing homemade brownies and I think Gster may still be bringing plates and utensils.
This originally was for WV blog (Dubya's) after the whole WE blog split. However, anybody who will be nice is invited to attend.
I'm sending this reminder out to those that I have email addy for. I know I have missed some, this is not meant to be personally insulting, I'm sorry,
I've been and am very busy at work and home and don't have time to send a personal email to everyone. Please pass this invite on to those who would
like to attend. (Can someone forward this to Hank please) If you are receiving this as a forwarding email, please come, we'd love to have you.
All are welcome if they can comply with the following:
--All disagreements will be done in a RESPECTFUL manner - please no name calling and insulting.
--If you are licensed CC please leave your firearm in the vehicle. If you want to show it off, please emulate XXX and have people go to your vehicle and look.
Blog meetup is Saturday June 30 from 12 noon to 4 p.m. We will be in Shelter #4. When you enter the park, turn right and it's the furthest north. It's close to the restrooms and the rides.
This is a pot luck meetup. I'll be bringing homemade brownies and I think Gster may still be bringing plates and utensils.
This originally was for WV blog (Dubya's) after the whole WE blog split. However, anybody who will be nice is invited to attend.
I'm sending this reminder out to those that I have email addy for. I know I have missed some, this is not meant to be personally insulting, I'm sorry,
I've been and am very busy at work and home and don't have time to send a personal email to everyone. Please pass this invite on to those who would
like to attend. (Can someone forward this to Hank please) If you are receiving this as a forwarding email, please come, we'd love to have you.
All are welcome if they can comply with the following:
--All disagreements will be done in a RESPECTFUL manner - please no name calling and insulting.
--If you are licensed CC please leave your firearm in the vehicle. If you want to show it off, please emulate XXX and have people go to your vehicle and look.
Vaughn Tolle said:
An "interesting" review of MS Vista. Were I in the Windows world, I believe I'd stick with XP (or whatever version is currently installed and running) a while.
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/13114/1090/
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/13114/1090/
lindainks55 said:
From Dan Froomkin's White House Watch; Washington Post http://tinyurl.com/9gx78
The Associated Press reports: "Two of the three judges considering whether to delay former White House aide I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby's prison sentence were Republican appointees.
"Libby's request was assigned to Judges David B. Sentelle, Karen Lecraft Henderson and David Tatel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Sentelle was put on the bench by President Reagan, Henderson by the first President Bush and Tatel by President Clinton."
Libby's defense team on Tuesday asked the Circuit Court to overrule District Court Judge Reggie Walton's decision that Libby should not be allowed to remain free pending appeal.
The three-judge panel (entirely by coincidence, I am assured by the court) is made of the exact same judges who, as Christy Hardin Smith notes on the Firedoglake blog, ordered journalists Matt Cooper and Judith Miller to testify in the Libby case.
Among Sentelle's claims to fame: He headed a panel that dismissed the original Whitewater counsel, Robert Fiske, and appointed Kenneth Starr instead; he and other Republicans reversed the convictions of Oliver L. North and John M. Poindexter in the Iran-contra scandal; he named his daughter Reagan after the president who appointed him to the bench.
One tea-leaf to read: The panel rejected a friend-of-the-court brief from 12 constitutional lawyers that the defense had sought to introduce.
The Associated Press reports: "Two of the three judges considering whether to delay former White House aide I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby's prison sentence were Republican appointees.
"Libby's request was assigned to Judges David B. Sentelle, Karen Lecraft Henderson and David Tatel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Sentelle was put on the bench by President Reagan, Henderson by the first President Bush and Tatel by President Clinton."
Libby's defense team on Tuesday asked the Circuit Court to overrule District Court Judge Reggie Walton's decision that Libby should not be allowed to remain free pending appeal.
The three-judge panel (entirely by coincidence, I am assured by the court) is made of the exact same judges who, as Christy Hardin Smith notes on the Firedoglake blog, ordered journalists Matt Cooper and Judith Miller to testify in the Libby case.
Among Sentelle's claims to fame: He headed a panel that dismissed the original Whitewater counsel, Robert Fiske, and appointed Kenneth Starr instead; he and other Republicans reversed the convictions of Oliver L. North and John M. Poindexter in the Iran-contra scandal; he named his daughter Reagan after the president who appointed him to the bench.
One tea-leaf to read: The panel rejected a friend-of-the-court brief from 12 constitutional lawyers that the defense had sought to introduce.
lindainks55 said:
Notice how often cartoonists can sum up a situation without saying a word? Here's a good one from Steve Sack of the Star Tribune in Minneapolis/St. Paul;
http://www.startribune.com/sack/
http://www.startribune.com/sack/
lindainks55 said:
My normally quiet life has gotten more complicated of late. This Sunday I'm driving to Emporia to meet my sister half way between here and KC. I will bring her grandson (my great nephew) home and he will stay with us while he attends a class at MindScapes. The following weekend (meetup weekend), my sister and brother-in-law are coming here to visit and pick up their grandson. Watson is a great place for kids so I will ask my sister if she will go along and she and Eli can play while I visit.
Why is it that I either have nothing to do, or at least two things? Same thing happens when I want to watch television -- either nothing on, or at least two programs I think I would enjoy.
Why is it that I either have nothing to do, or at least two things? Same thing happens when I want to watch television -- either nothing on, or at least two programs I think I would enjoy.
Danny said:
Vaughn,
Interestingly, I run Vista, XP,and Ubuntu on my home machine. Getting GRUB to work properly with Vista was a PITA. Pardon my acronym.
However, some of the problems what were described by the author were true of Vista early on. Some of which have been fixed. The issue his son had with the show desktop was an Nvidia driver problem, and alot of the slowness/sluggishness was also due to Nvidia(had an Nvidia card).
As for some basic applications not included, he is correct and incorrect. Microsoft Mail isn't bad for a standard email client, but don't expect much from it. Internet Explorer 7, I'll disagree with him on, it is a marked improvement over 6 and does handle pop ups much better now, but it could use some stylistic improvements(agree with the author on that point).
Similar to Linux distributions, wireless cards do not all work with Vista, and of those that do, a smaller percentage still only work with 64-bit Vista. Frustrating to say the least. Interestingly, if you have XP drivers the 32 bit drivers will work with 32 bit Vista but the 64bit drivers do not(at least I've had no luck with that).
Pros:
I think it is more secure than XP.
It is pretty.
Somethings are more intuitive.
The start menu is better organized, gone are the days of the long drawn out layered start menu.
Cons:
Expect to update drivers on first install.
Nvidia cards are notorious for not working well with early version drivers for Vista(really slow).
Wireless is a pain.
Some sluggishness at first as the desktop search util builds its indexes(expected, but still a con).
Conclusion:
I think Vista is a good OS once hardware manufacturers get caught up with it, in so far as drivers are concerned. If getting it on a new PC, fine, but I'd hold off on upgrading until the hardware you want to use is Vista ready/compatible. Otherwise you may be spending some time identifying what you can and can not use on an already built system and then later tweaking it to stabilize and speed up the system overall.
Range of hardware I've tested with:
Processors: AMD Sempron 2600+, Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, AMD Athlon X2 3800+(64-bit extentions).
Memory ranges from: 768MB(shared with video), 1GB, and 2GB.
Videocards: Integrated ATI X300(sharing 128MB ram), ATI X800 PCI Express, and Nvidia 7950 GTX.
Networking: Nvidia integrated, Intel Integrated, Realtek integrated, Zyxel Wireless M302(not compatible), Linksys (don't recall the model off hand, worked)
Pretty much the specs are in order with the respective processors above. All the wireless cards were on the "higher" end machine.
No issues with monitor resolutions or monitor detection on any of the setups.
Interestingly, I run Vista, XP,and Ubuntu on my home machine. Getting GRUB to work properly with Vista was a PITA. Pardon my acronym.
However, some of the problems what were described by the author were true of Vista early on. Some of which have been fixed. The issue his son had with the show desktop was an Nvidia driver problem, and alot of the slowness/sluggishness was also due to Nvidia(had an Nvidia card).
As for some basic applications not included, he is correct and incorrect. Microsoft Mail isn't bad for a standard email client, but don't expect much from it. Internet Explorer 7, I'll disagree with him on, it is a marked improvement over 6 and does handle pop ups much better now, but it could use some stylistic improvements(agree with the author on that point).
Similar to Linux distributions, wireless cards do not all work with Vista, and of those that do, a smaller percentage still only work with 64-bit Vista. Frustrating to say the least. Interestingly, if you have XP drivers the 32 bit drivers will work with 32 bit Vista but the 64bit drivers do not(at least I've had no luck with that).
Pros:
I think it is more secure than XP.
It is pretty.
Somethings are more intuitive.
The start menu is better organized, gone are the days of the long drawn out layered start menu.
Cons:
Expect to update drivers on first install.
Nvidia cards are notorious for not working well with early version drivers for Vista(really slow).
Wireless is a pain.
Some sluggishness at first as the desktop search util builds its indexes(expected, but still a con).
Conclusion:
I think Vista is a good OS once hardware manufacturers get caught up with it, in so far as drivers are concerned. If getting it on a new PC, fine, but I'd hold off on upgrading until the hardware you want to use is Vista ready/compatible. Otherwise you may be spending some time identifying what you can and can not use on an already built system and then later tweaking it to stabilize and speed up the system overall.
Range of hardware I've tested with:
Processors: AMD Sempron 2600+, Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, AMD Athlon X2 3800+(64-bit extentions).
Memory ranges from: 768MB(shared with video), 1GB, and 2GB.
Videocards: Integrated ATI X300(sharing 128MB ram), ATI X800 PCI Express, and Nvidia 7950 GTX.
Networking: Nvidia integrated, Intel Integrated, Realtek integrated, Zyxel Wireless M302(not compatible), Linksys (don't recall the model off hand, worked)
Pretty much the specs are in order with the respective processors above. All the wireless cards were on the "higher" end machine.
No issues with monitor resolutions or monitor detection on any of the setups.
Rox said:
Danny, thanks for the information on Vista. I don't plan to go to it until I do get a new computer, which won't be until fall at the earliest.
Now you guys can laugh, but I liked Windows 95 and ME the best. We never did put 98 on our computer to stay, because every time we downloaded it, the computer crashed. We gave up. I ended up with XP Pro instead of Home (which came on my computer), because I kept hearing horror stories about Home when it first came out. XP is okay, and I haven't had problems with it. I've been curious about Vista, so the above has been interesting.
Now, what about Office 2007? I've heard raves and groans, and since I use Word constantly, I don't want to have to learn all the new bells and whistles, unless I know it's worth it. Yeah, I'm set in my ways. Or too lazy to deal with it.
Linda, I hope your halfway trip to KC was pleasant and the week proves the same. Hope to see you (and all!) on Saturday.
Now you guys can laugh, but I liked Windows 95 and ME the best. We never did put 98 on our computer to stay, because every time we downloaded it, the computer crashed. We gave up. I ended up with XP Pro instead of Home (which came on my computer), because I kept hearing horror stories about Home when it first came out. XP is okay, and I haven't had problems with it. I've been curious about Vista, so the above has been interesting.
Now, what about Office 2007? I've heard raves and groans, and since I use Word constantly, I don't want to have to learn all the new bells and whistles, unless I know it's worth it. Yeah, I'm set in my ways. Or too lazy to deal with it.
Linda, I hope your halfway trip to KC was pleasant and the week proves the same. Hope to see you (and all!) on Saturday.
Nathan said:
I am using 64 bit Vista right now.
Of course I put all brand new components into my computer too.
I had to get all the drivers off the internet, because none of the drivers which came with the hardware were compatable.
I love Vista. It is easy, I don't have crashes (except for my AVG seems to stop WOW while I'm playing so I disable it, going to fix that soon)
I currently have:
Processor: QX6700
Motherboard: EVGA 680 SLI
Ram: 2GB Corsair XMS
Video: 768MB BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
Memory: 320 GB Western Digital
75 GB Western Digital Raptor
Case: Thermaltake Full Tower Armor Series
PSU: 750W Thermaltake Modular
Monitor: 22 inch Samsung
I know you might call it a bit excessive, but it is what I wanted while I was in Iraq and told myself I would build once I paid off all my debt.
Of course I put all brand new components into my computer too.
I had to get all the drivers off the internet, because none of the drivers which came with the hardware were compatable.
I love Vista. It is easy, I don't have crashes (except for my AVG seems to stop WOW while I'm playing so I disable it, going to fix that soon)
I currently have:
Processor: QX6700
Motherboard: EVGA 680 SLI
Ram: 2GB Corsair XMS
Video: 768MB BFG GeForce 8800 GTX
Memory: 320 GB Western Digital
75 GB Western Digital Raptor
Case: Thermaltake Full Tower Armor Series
PSU: 750W Thermaltake Modular
Monitor: 22 inch Samsung
I know you might call it a bit excessive, but it is what I wanted while I was in Iraq and told myself I would build once I paid off all my debt.
Danny said:
Rox,
Vista is good, as stated, you are likely to have to download some drivers ahead of time, or if purchasing a pre-built computer, you may not need to do anything.
With that, as for Office 2007, I do like that alot. And it has the license agreement allowing for it to be installed on up to three computers(I don't recall if that is new or not).
Nathan,
Nice machine! I play WOW also: Lightbringer server. Just play with a group friends from all over the place. Now all ya need to do is SLI that 8800GTX. ;)
Vista is good, as stated, you are likely to have to download some drivers ahead of time, or if purchasing a pre-built computer, you may not need to do anything.
With that, as for Office 2007, I do like that alot. And it has the license agreement allowing for it to be installed on up to three computers(I don't recall if that is new or not).
Nathan,
Nice machine! I play WOW also: Lightbringer server. Just play with a group friends from all over the place. Now all ya need to do is SLI that 8800GTX. ;)
lindainks55 said:
Rox, the trip was very pleasant. Somedays it feels good to get in a car all by yourself and drive. The Flint Hills are breathtaking! All the rain has made the many shades of green better than usual, the wild flowers are in bloom and yesterday there were clouds that added interesting shading across the vista -- really pretty!
Vaughn Tolle said:
Just stopping in for a few moments.
Wonder what the effect of the suicide bombing in Baghdad (link below to BBC report) will have on the totality of the "surge", and the efforts to include the Sunnis in the overall effort.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6236494.stm...
Linda, there are times when getting into a car and driving is the best of all options. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'm sure it had salubrious effects on your overall mental state.
Nathan, nice machine!!
Rox, and others, Saturday is starting to look problematic for me. I'll keep all advised as the week progresses.
Wonder what the effect of the suicide bombing in Baghdad (link below to BBC report) will have on the totality of the "surge", and the efforts to include the Sunnis in the overall effort.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6236494.stm...
Linda, there are times when getting into a car and driving is the best of all options. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'm sure it had salubrious effects on your overall mental state.
Nathan, nice machine!!
Rox, and others, Saturday is starting to look problematic for me. I'll keep all advised as the week progresses.
Nathan said:
Danny,
I am on Thunderlord with my lvl 69 Lock. I should hit 70 this week.
It is amazing how many people I meet playing WOW and how many firends I had that play WOW and I never knew.
Alot of the guys I served in Iraq with all play WOW.
Sad things is, if we were given an internet connection good enough to play WOW in Iraq we probably would have signed up to stay for another tour! LOL
I am on Thunderlord with my lvl 69 Lock. I should hit 70 this week.
It is amazing how many people I meet playing WOW and how many firends I had that play WOW and I never knew.
Alot of the guys I served in Iraq with all play WOW.
Sad things is, if we were given an internet connection good enough to play WOW in Iraq we probably would have signed up to stay for another tour! LOL
Danny said:
All,
For this weekend I would not be able to attend. Perhaps if another is done in August sometime, I may be able to if my wife wants to go that is.
Nathan,
I know what you mean. I have a 63 Rogue and a 35 Mage. So I enjoy it.
For this weekend I would not be able to attend. Perhaps if another is done in August sometime, I may be able to if my wife wants to go that is.
Nathan,
I know what you mean. I have a 63 Rogue and a 35 Mage. So I enjoy it.
Rox said:
Danny, I need you DESPERATELY!!
My computer died last night. My guess is the CPU, but it doesn't matter, because I knew the time was getting close to replace it. I replaced it (the computer) today.
Of course it has Vista (Basic) on it. Right now, I HATE it! The internet is running so slowly that I could birth a child in the time it takes to go to and load a site. My guess is that I don't have enough RAM. The computer came with 512 MB. Pitiful, I know, but it'll have to do for now.
What's the difference between DDR and DDR2? Are they interchangeable? Can I put a DDR stick into this computer that has DDR2? I have plenty of DDRs, and I hate to put out the $$$ to change, but I'll go crazy if I have to crawl to websites. Okay, I'm already half crazy, but you get the idea. :D
Help!
My computer died last night. My guess is the CPU, but it doesn't matter, because I knew the time was getting close to replace it. I replaced it (the computer) today.
Of course it has Vista (Basic) on it. Right now, I HATE it! The internet is running so slowly that I could birth a child in the time it takes to go to and load a site. My guess is that I don't have enough RAM. The computer came with 512 MB. Pitiful, I know, but it'll have to do for now.
What's the difference between DDR and DDR2? Are they interchangeable? Can I put a DDR stick into this computer that has DDR2? I have plenty of DDRs, and I hate to put out the $$$ to change, but I'll go crazy if I have to crawl to websites. Okay, I'm already half crazy, but you get the idea. :D
Help!
Rox said:
Hi again. (Can y'all see how red my face is?)
Danny, I finally got all the updates done (gee, I thought I'd done that!), and everything is running MUCH better. I also checked out the DDR/DDR2 thing and discovered I'll need to buy new, but since everything is going good now, I may wait. Or maybe just double my RAM for now.
Making sense of Word 2007 may prove interesting though.
Danny, I finally got all the updates done (gee, I thought I'd done that!), and everything is running MUCH better. I also checked out the DDR/DDR2 thing and discovered I'll need to buy new, but since everything is going good now, I may wait. Or maybe just double my RAM for now.
Making sense of Word 2007 may prove interesting though.
Danny said:
Rox,
Sorry, yesterday I wasn't here at all. Proven by the fact that I just now read the messages. However, given that. So I'll answer your questions though for you still:
Vista Basic, slow if you do not have enough memory, that is true. I'd try to make sure you have at least 1GB(512MB is pretty minimal so things will likely run slow) of Ram. Also verify drivers and Windows updates are available.
DDR/DDR2 are not interchangeable. It is important to use the same memory types their timings, latencies and voltage requirements are all different. Plus, they are keyed differently so you couldn't plug it in anyway.
Crazy, its what computers are meant to do. :D
If it is any consolation during my moving(yeah didn't mention that until now), I had my computer with three harddrives all crash. So, in addition to some data loss(oh well, not a big deal to me) I now get to buy new drives. I use linux, Windows XP, and Windows Vista all on the same machine. But I like having each on its own drive.
Now as I typed all of that up, I just read where I missed the second post as being a second post and noticed that you did all of that I had just said. In regards to Word 2007, yes it has a little learning curve, but I think overall it really is better laid out.
Sorry, yesterday I wasn't here at all. Proven by the fact that I just now read the messages. However, given that. So I'll answer your questions though for you still:
Vista Basic, slow if you do not have enough memory, that is true. I'd try to make sure you have at least 1GB(512MB is pretty minimal so things will likely run slow) of Ram. Also verify drivers and Windows updates are available.
DDR/DDR2 are not interchangeable. It is important to use the same memory types their timings, latencies and voltage requirements are all different. Plus, they are keyed differently so you couldn't plug it in anyway.
Crazy, its what computers are meant to do. :D
If it is any consolation during my moving(yeah didn't mention that until now), I had my computer with three harddrives all crash. So, in addition to some data loss(oh well, not a big deal to me) I now get to buy new drives. I use linux, Windows XP, and Windows Vista all on the same machine. But I like having each on its own drive.
Now as I typed all of that up, I just read where I missed the second post as being a second post and noticed that you did all of that I had just said. In regards to Word 2007, yes it has a little learning curve, but I think overall it really is better laid out.
Rox said:
Thanks for your help, Danny! I'm going to have to go online and get some help for Word '07. I'm not seeing what I need.
And then there's the FTP program problem. Today, life sucks. >g<
Linda, I'll be driving to KC on the 10th to meet up with a friend flying in from St. Louise, and we'll catch a flight together to Dallas. I think I'll enjoy the drive. The Flint Hills ARE beautiful. My best friend spent some time in Sedan a few years ago, and both trips I made down were exceptional. But then I love trees! >g<
Catch you all later. I'm still trying to figure out everything I need to do to get back up to normal.
And then there's the FTP program problem. Today, life sucks. >g<
Linda, I'll be driving to KC on the 10th to meet up with a friend flying in from St. Louise, and we'll catch a flight together to Dallas. I think I'll enjoy the drive. The Flint Hills ARE beautiful. My best friend spent some time in Sedan a few years ago, and both trips I made down were exceptional. But then I love trees! >g<
Catch you all later. I'm still trying to figure out everything I need to do to get back up to normal.
Danny said:
For FTP, I've used:
SmartFTP. For Telnet and ssh I've used Putty. SmartFTP is free and not too bad to use. Just thought I'd mention that.
SmartFTP. For Telnet and ssh I've used Putty. SmartFTP is free and not too bad to use. Just thought I'd mention that.
Rox said:
Again, thanks, Danny.
I'm downloading Smart FTP as I type. I've used WS_FTP LE in the past, but now all I can get is a short trial. With a trip 2 weeks away, airline tickets, hotel room, meals, car rental, etc., I'm not spending a lot on computer right now. Call me cheap. >g< Smart looks easy enough to use. I just have to look up all the host info for all the websites I do. Once that's done, and my daughter returns my Dreamweaver Suite tonight, I'm back in business. Literally.
I will double my RAM this weekend, if not sooner. I knew 512 was going to be too slow, but getting a 'puter that'll do "for now" (as my ex used to say), didn't give me the option of getting exactly what I wanted. One of these days...
Now can you walk me through transferring files on the old drive to the new one? LOL Seriously, I'm going to grab a son-in-law for that one.
Back to playing with Word...
I'm downloading Smart FTP as I type. I've used WS_FTP LE in the past, but now all I can get is a short trial. With a trip 2 weeks away, airline tickets, hotel room, meals, car rental, etc., I'm not spending a lot on computer right now. Call me cheap. >g< Smart looks easy enough to use. I just have to look up all the host info for all the websites I do. Once that's done, and my daughter returns my Dreamweaver Suite tonight, I'm back in business. Literally.
I will double my RAM this weekend, if not sooner. I knew 512 was going to be too slow, but getting a 'puter that'll do "for now" (as my ex used to say), didn't give me the option of getting exactly what I wanted. One of these days...
Now can you walk me through transferring files on the old drive to the new one? LOL Seriously, I'm going to grab a son-in-law for that one.
Back to playing with Word...
Danny said:
Transfering files is easy. :D
Getting the old harddrive in the computer without knowing alot about the particular insides of the computer and the interface type of the old harddrive is more, well, challenging.
However, there are always options.
1. Putting the old harddrive in the computer(assumes that the new computer meets the interface requirements of the old drive). I'd say that in some way this is almost always possible.
2. Perhaps getting an external harddrive enclosure(not the whole drive, but just the enclosure that which holds a drive) that works for the type of drive you have in your old computer.
Benefits:
Internal drives means just connecting the drive once, and pretty much forgetting about it.
External drive(2nd option) means that you can bring it with you and access your documents and such on other machines and not just your own. Also only have to take apart one computer.
Cons:
Internal drives. Usually means just a little more work in getting the drive hooked up. Requires getting into two computers.
External drives. A small expense for the enclosure. And a little work on getting the drive into the enclosure.
However, if you are going to have a son-in-law look at that for you then I'd let him go through the options with you also. Likely, he would recommend the 1st option, however ask him about what he thinks about a "home made" solution for an external drive(2nd option).
Getting the old harddrive in the computer without knowing alot about the particular insides of the computer and the interface type of the old harddrive is more, well, challenging.
However, there are always options.
1. Putting the old harddrive in the computer(assumes that the new computer meets the interface requirements of the old drive). I'd say that in some way this is almost always possible.
2. Perhaps getting an external harddrive enclosure(not the whole drive, but just the enclosure that which holds a drive) that works for the type of drive you have in your old computer.
Benefits:
Internal drives means just connecting the drive once, and pretty much forgetting about it.
External drive(2nd option) means that you can bring it with you and access your documents and such on other machines and not just your own. Also only have to take apart one computer.
Cons:
Internal drives. Usually means just a little more work in getting the drive hooked up. Requires getting into two computers.
External drives. A small expense for the enclosure. And a little work on getting the drive into the enclosure.
However, if you are going to have a son-in-law look at that for you then I'd let him go through the options with you also. Likely, he would recommend the 1st option, however ask him about what he thinks about a "home made" solution for an external drive(2nd option).
Rox said:
Believe it or not, I have an external hard drive...for backup. I've been meaning to set it up to auto backup and kept putting it off, knowing I needed to dump a lot of stuff. This is what happens when one is the Queen of Procrastination. Please shoot me. LOL
I can do basics: replace power supply, switch out CD/disk drives, add memory... I've had to learn a lot. My ex wouldn't even allow me to install a program. Even My Computer was foreign. I called it "the tree thingy". Stop laughing! LOL You learn fast when you have to, I guess.
I appreciate your help, Danny. I shall now shutup and let us all get back to the task of everyday things, like wondering who's running the country.
I can do basics: replace power supply, switch out CD/disk drives, add memory... I've had to learn a lot. My ex wouldn't even allow me to install a program. Even My Computer was foreign. I called it "the tree thingy". Stop laughing! LOL You learn fast when you have to, I guess.
I appreciate your help, Danny. I shall now shutup and let us all get back to the task of everyday things, like wondering who's running the country.
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